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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Jun 16, 2012 15:35:02 GMT -5
So, my plan is to create my own MG36. And I want to do it right. I already have an entirely custom gearbox to drop into it, and now I need the externals. I know that people at events will constantly critique the replica if I just show up with a C-mag on a G36. To eliminate that problem, I'll always have standard midcaps for it.
Anyways, I'm looking for some speculation and some input on externals that will make the replica stand out and actually be seen as a MG36. A top rail is a must IMO and I will be slapping an EOtech onto it. I'm looking at using a KV stock, also. Should I use a G36K as a base? I feel that it would be my best bet.
I cannot find a clear reading on the differences of barrel length, regarding to all of the MK36 varients. So could somebody give me a hand on the barrel length? That would be appreciated. If you want to, a list of externals would be nice. Actually, any help will be nice. ;D
Thanks in advance, guys.
*I know people get all piss-pants over the MG36 subject because they don't want to see a G36c with a C-mag at games. That's exactly what I do NOT want to do.*
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Post by deacon on Jun 16, 2012 15:50:37 GMT -5
H&K MG36 Country of origin Germany Designer Heckler und Koch Production began 1995 Weapon type Machine Gun Caliber 5.56mm NATO Action Gas-operated, Rotating bolt Overall length 999 millimeters Barrel length 480 millimeters (about 19 inches) Weight empty 3.6 kilograms Magazine capacity 100 rounds Cyclic rate 750 rounds per minute Maximum effective range 800 meters It's closest relative would be the G36E length. You cannot find any information on it because it was never adopted into use by the Bundeswehr. This was the gun of choice to fill the LMG role: world.guns.ru/machine/de/hk-mg-4-e.htmlAlso: A railed platform is NOT correct for the MG36. A rail and EOTech would be incorrect. You need one of these: The KV Stock is NOT Required either. This gun was only ever in testing.
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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Jun 16, 2012 15:53:35 GMT -5
The KV stock is more of a personal preference. And I think STAR has made a carry handle scope like that, if I'm not mistaken. So, I'll look into that.
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Post by deacon on Jun 16, 2012 16:03:32 GMT -5
I was providing more of a "This is what they used" more than what to buy. Ares = Star.
Also: It's not about "personal preference." If you want to be taken seriously you need to go by what they used. Otherwise you are that "douchebag" with a G36 and C-mag.
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Post by Talisman on Jun 16, 2012 16:04:08 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to toss mine together now, but here's what it looked like when jump had it. I've basically got everything minus the C-mag. Good luck finding a non-junk C mag without using an M4 magwell conversion. Oh, and the carry handle scope/red dot combo thing that I have is junk. I can't even bother to use it. Not sure on the brand, I don't see any markings on it. And, here's an edit! To hell with what everybody else thinks. It's friggin airsoft, if you wanna show up with a half-assed MG36 variant, then feel free. If someone acts like you're a "that douchebag" they're the true moron.
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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Jun 16, 2012 16:06:57 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to toss mine together now, but here's what it looked like when jump had it. I've basically got everything minus the C-mag. Good luck finding a non-junk C mag without using an M4 magwell conversion. Oh, and the carry handle scope/red dot combo thing that I have is junk. I can't even bother to use it. Not sure on the brand, I don't see any markings on it. Links broken, but I'd love to see it. Are you willing to part with it?
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Post by Talisman on Jun 16, 2012 16:08:53 GMT -5
it's fixed now. It was broken for like 8 seconds while I edited it, are you just F5'ing this thread? ;p
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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Jun 16, 2012 16:13:57 GMT -5
it's fixed now. It was broken for like 8 seconds while I edited it, are you just F5'ing this thread? ;p Haha, maybe And thats's a nice looking AEG. I would personally repaint it black, or maybe slap a light tan on it to wear, but it looks nice. That barrel needs to be a little longer though,
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Post by Kilo Oscar Tango on Jun 16, 2012 16:14:38 GMT -5
There is also this optic if you want to retain the ability to use an Eotech instead. airsoft-club.com/shop/aiming-sight/red-green-dot-sight/1x22-g36-type-heavy-duty-red-dot-sight-scope-with-red-laserI would go that route because you never know if that optic will crap out on you and $70 is better than $150 for replacement, along with the freedom to use other optics if you want. The problem is the MG36 was never officially fielded, the only pictures we have of "MG36s" in use are when soldiers personally buy beta mags and get the privilege to use them, like this famous photo: So if the MG36 were to actually be used I think any G36k/G36 configuration would be valid, but some people (perhaps event planners) have a strict sense of what an MG36 should be. If I were you I would say 'f it and just go with an accurate G36k and save yourself the hassle.
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Post by Talisman on Jun 16, 2012 16:17:13 GMT -5
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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Jun 16, 2012 16:20:09 GMT -5
There is also this optic if you want to retain the ability to use an Eotech instead. airsoft-club.com/shop/aiming-sight/red-green-dot-sight/1x22-g36-type-heavy-duty-red-dot-sight-scope-with-red-laserI would go that route because you never know if that optic will crap out on you and $70 is better than $150 for replacement, along with the freedom to use other optics if you want. The problem is the MG36 was never officially fielded, the only pictures we have of "MG36s" in use are when soldiers personally buy beta mags and get the privilege to use them, like this famous photo: So if the MG36 were to actually be used I think any G36k/G36 configuration would be valid, but some people (perhaps event planners) have a strict sense of what an MG36 should be. If I were you I would say 'f it and just go with an accurate G36k and save yourself the hassle. I actually like the look of that sight. I also like the look if those AEG'S. Are they yours?
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Post by Talisman on Jun 16, 2012 16:21:58 GMT -5
That's some nice carpet, too. Clean!
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Post by Kilo Oscar Tango on Jun 16, 2012 16:37:26 GMT -5
Those two black rifles are mine, the bottom two photos are RS. That carpet was new when those pictures were taken I have a KWA G36K (originally G36c with fugly handguard, replaced with SRC G36K Gen II body), SRC Gen III "MG36" and ARES G36K. If you're going to be doing some modification, as in swapping the handguard, barrel, stock, and rail, the KWA is the best, followed by the SRC Gen III if you can find it in a configuration close to what you want, and lastly the ARES. SRC Gen II need not apply, they're not very good internally compared to any of the other three options. SRC has the best externals, followed by ARES and KWA was downright terrible (although it was a Gen I). ARES is not very remarkable internally and I simply don't trust them considering they changed many aspects of most of their AEGs from STAR's design to be less expensive to produce. ARES G36k handguards are also the "bipod" design and aren't as comfortable to handle. That KWA has been my most accurate and reliable AEG for going on 5 years now, and I've owned quite a few AEGs over the years. While I'm not an expert and I'm not going to try to detail stats from every AEG I've owned I am extremely impressed with the operation of the KWA. KWA would be my vote for the base, although the starting package in terms of externals doesn't really matter that much because G36 parts are dirt cheap ($20 for a standard G36/K handguard, $50 for an RIS, $60 for a G36/KA2 stock). I would suggest dropping the MG36 deal too because as mentioned beta mags are terrible and expensive. The cheapest ones are $50 while you can get a set of 5 flawless STAR 140 round midcaps for ~$40. If you are sticking to Milsim I would again suggest making an accurate G36k. It feels like I'm cheating when I use my KWA, I just line up the Eotech reticule and fire a couple rounds to get a hit. That's my opinion, of course. I'm probably too strongly biased against ARES because STAR made pretty much perfect AEGs that no other company even tried to make that had ridiculous stock performance in my experience and ARES made changes to "stay competitive". I don't think going with an ARES over a KWA would be terrible, it's hard to find a bad G36 variant, it's just that I've had phenomenal consistent performance and reliability with my KWA.
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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Jun 16, 2012 19:23:52 GMT -5
Those two black rifles are mine, the bottom two photos are RS. That carpet was new when those pictures were taken I have a KWA G36K (originally G36c with fugly handguard, replaced with SRC G36K Gen II body), SRC Gen III "MG36" and ARES G36K. If you're going to be doing some modification, as in swapping the handguard, barrel, stock, and rail, the KWA is the best, followed by the SRC Gen III if you can find it in a configuration close to what you want, and lastly the ARES. SRC Gen II need not apply, they're not very good internally compared to any of the other three options. SRC has the best externals, followed by ARES and KWA was downright terrible (although it was a Gen I). ARES is not very remarkable internally and I simply don't trust them considering they changed many aspects of most of their AEGs from STAR's design to be less expensive to produce. ARES G36k handguards are also the "bipod" design and aren't as comfortable to handle. That KWA has been my most accurate and reliable AEG for going on 5 years now, and I've owned quite a few AEGs over the years. While I'm not an expert and I'm not going to try to detail stats from every AEG I've owned I am extremely impressed with the operation of the KWA. KWA would be my vote for the base, although the starting package in terms of externals doesn't really matter that much because G36 parts are dirt cheap ($20 for a standard G36/K handguard, $50 for an RIS, $60 for a G36/KA2 stock). I would suggest dropping the MG36 deal too because as mentioned beta mags are terrible and expensive. The cheapest ones are $50 while you can get a set of 5 flawless STAR 140 round midcaps for ~$40. If you are sticking to Milsim I would again suggest making an accurate G36k. It feels like I'm cheating when I use my KWA, I just line up the Eotech reticule and fire a couple rounds to get a hit. That's my opinion, of course. I'm probably too strongly biased against ARES because STAR made pretty much perfect AEGs that no other company even tried to make that had ridiculous stock performance in my experience and ARES made changes to "stay competitive". I don't think going with an ARES over a KWA would be terrible, it's hard to find a bad G36 variant, it's just that I've had phenomenal consistent performance and reliability with my KWA. If that was you in the 3rd picture, I'd be your best friend. ;D Thanks for the analysis. There's an SRC G36K in commerce that I'm looking to trade for. Would it be a good start? EDIT: Here's the link. miairsoft.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=commerce&action=display&thread=43704
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Post by kajunkerspunk on Jun 16, 2012 22:51:41 GMT -5
This is what mind looked like if you want to use it as a reference. Pretty much what everyone else has posted.
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