REC-((OPERATION: "PAY THE RENT")) May 4,5,6

[ATS]

Status: R2Zoo will be down Friday night, and maybe Saturday / Sunday, as long as we get him and his crew some OpFor...

Christian will be there Sat with 6. Mosin is working out the days for him and pals, but will be there Fri night with 4 maybe Saturday.. for the rest, I need some email confirmation guys, Lets kick off this season right!!!

I am looking at 125+ acres for an outdoor gaming setup in the Clarkston area, we will be holding major weekend long and Holiday events this summer, and going forward!!! .. I also spent some time talking with Wayne Macgregor (the Target Tracker / Police Robot guy) - he has 400+ acres we can hold a MAJOR big event at this summer, about 3 hrs West.. We'll shoot for an East Vs. West Mi event!

We are going to try and get an ACA National outdoor event at one of those two locations, preferably at the Clarkston Location, this summer.. That will bring in big sponsors, major prizes, etc.. as well as the cache’ of hosting …and maybe having a local team WIN an ACA National Championship!!!!

As a former Nat Champ, Jason (My COO) has a good “in” with them, and talks are in progress.. We solicit YOUR ideas as well. So… - when you come this weekend, think on anything you'd like to kick in idea-wise, OK guys?

FYI-payback on the ACA events are awesome guns, gear, etc.. for top teams, and NO ONE goes home unhappy!!!!!!

When I ask you guys to come out and keep us up and running, at this formative stage, bear these things in mind, we will be bringing YOU the best of Airsoft there is to be had (I won’t even get into the Asian contingent looking to visit – all champs in their countries, and wanting to help facilitate ExIM shipments of AS guns and gear to Michigan, which they see as a HUGELY developing market, so they track our work, and our response/turnout.. let’s show them what Michigan is all about!!!!!

Thadius

ATS!~

[Mosin]

So far I've got myself + 2. Probably going to end up being myself +5 for Friday, but we won't be there until about 6:00 PM. We'll be wearing woodland USMC FROG though so we can play one team/side.

[X]

May 2, 2012 20:01:01 GMT -5 ATS said:

I am looking at 125+ acres for an outdoor gaming setup in the Clarkston area, we will be holding major weekend long and Holiday events this summer, and going forward!!! .. I also spent some time talking with Wayne Macgregor (the Target Tracker / Police Robot guy) - he has 400+ acres we can hold a MAJOR big event at this summer, about 3 hrs West.. We'll shoot for an East Vs. West Mi event!

We are going to try and get an ACA National outdoor event at one of those two locations, preferably at the Clarkston Location, this summer.. That will bring in big sponsors, major prizes, etc.. as well as the cache� of hosting �and maybe having a local team WIN an ACA National

Where? I'd definitely be down to help out around the field, host events, etc. PM me.

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[Fission]

I'll be there with r2zoo tomorrow night, with 3 more as well. Should be 6 total attending for friday night's session from our group. Sounds like Mosin might be there with an opfor group. Should be good times, looking forward to seeing the place for the first time.

[ATS]

You guys are the people who MAKE airsoft a great game!! Looking forward to meeting you all, this will be AWESOME!!!!!!

Thadius
ATS

[Mosin]

Still trying to put all our cookies in the same basket here on our end. Looks like a lot of the guys on my end won't be making it out until 6 PM or so, you said you'll be open until 10 or 11 PM? If that's the case it'll probably just be myself with one or two more earlier in the day, followed up by the rest of the guys trickling in. Or we'll end up doing Saturday so we can do all day. Not 100% sure on either yet, but just wanted to give you a heads up.

[Fission]

Our group will be showing up around 6p as well I'm thinking. r2zoo might be there earlier. I won't be out of work until 5:30 then gotta go home n grab my stuff n get up there of course..so hopefully 6p at the earliest. Hope to see you guys there.

[ATS]

Well, if you all pan on showing at 5-6 on Friday, we'l stay open til Midnightk, no issue! As far as changing the day,l I already turned a few Friday folks down so we wont be overcrowded, and had them come later on in the weekend, why not show both days? We habve rom on Saturday. When I seal the deal on the lan up near Clarkston, I'll want toget guys in with shovels and saws, we'll buld log and Earth Bunkers, trenches, you name it!!! Eventually, like wwe're doing construction and growing Warren, we'll get o the point we have Amry issue tents (Korean/Viet Nam vintage) and camo netting - big comand posts, etc.. We'll hold overnight games three day games.. you name it, we're open to suggestions!!! ...even, if we can swing it, get some armor (a 113 APC, a halftrack, you name it) out there to play with in the games.. if not, we will buld ATVs into Armored Vehicles!! Anyone have a M1 Abrahms that just doesnt fit in your garage anymore??? How about a nice new HummVee? Preferably an H1, not an H2 or.. (Shudder) an H3..

[ATS]

ALL!!!! Make sure you bring ones and fives to join in on the $$$ Paying activities!!!!!! We want everyone to go home happy and with some neat prizes or cash, and that requires your being there, and your joining in.. you all will LOVE this stuff!!!

PRIZE EVENTS ARE FREE!!!! The $ payeack events are based on everyone kicking in a one or a five, and the winner takes all!

[Mosin]

Eh, putting money into the game only promotes dishonesty. Is that something we have to get in on or can we sit those ones out?

[bobbunny]

Cleared for Saturday from you.

But yeh, I'm not 100% sure on anybody (You did post this on Craigslist) being completely legit except trusted people.

[Knief]

May 2, 2012 18:42:30 GMT -5 ATS said:

Yes, if you can stand to withhold firing at less than 20 feet, switching to pistol, or if you get a crew willing to use outdoor FPS, indoors, ALL MUST AGREE, then you're good to go guys!

Bring 'em and if necessry, use a loaner or rent a G36 provided by Phoenix ($15 dollar rental, comes with safety gear)! ..and while you're there, check out our new stock!!!!!

We have had a crew come in (well-covered) who really wanted to shoot higher FPS, they signed waivers and hosed each other all day, laughing as they did so, we wil make our field rules match your desires (within reason)!!!

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ATS,

I understand your desire to be accommodating, but allowing higher FPS guns into a CQB environment is a recipe for an injury. Those rules are set and enforced for the safety of your customers and the members of this community. We've seen plenty of injuries over the years from players using hot guns in close quarters, including broken fingers and rounds embedded under a player's skin.

However, it's your field and you may run it however you like, but you should be aware that if you're allowing higher than MiA FPS rules you must add a disclaimer both in your thread title and at the top of your main post.

MiA FPS and MED rules. Note that 350 FPS is the max for any indoor event, regardless of range.

Article 15: The following are the minimum distance engagement limits for airsoft replicas. This is the closest a player can engage another player with a replica rated in the following feet per second (fps) categories using full-auto, semi-auto, or single shot capability. See Article 16 for extremely close quarter player elimination.

As of April 24, 2009, these rules include a 10fps "tolerance zone". Players will be allowed onto the field if their weapons shoot up to 10.0 fps over the published limit.

OUTDOOR/OPEN FIELD ENGAGEMENT LIMITS
• 1.0 - 340.9 fps - Arms length engagement limit


• 341.0 - 400.9 fps - 20 foot engagement limit


• 401.0 - 540.9 fps – 50 foot engagement limit, bolt action or permanent* semi-auto replicas only


• 541.0+ fps - Prohibited or allowed with permission of event organizer only

*Permanent semi-auto refers to replicas that do not have full-auto fire capability, no matter how the selector switch or other user input device is manipulated.

INDOOR/CLOSE QUARTER BATTLE (CQB)/ENCLOSED FIELD ENGAGEMENT LIMITS
• 1.0 - 340.9 fps – Arms length engagement limit


• 341.0+ fps – prohibited or allowed with permission of event organizer only

Engagement limits are based on averaged fps readings using .20 gram weight bb’s only. The method for acquiring an airsoft replica’s average fps is to fire multiple (more than 2) shots through a chronograph, record the readings, add the fps readings together and divide by the total number of readings.
Gas operated airsoft replicas should be chronographed using a “warm” ambient temperature gas supply (i.e. magazine), or with heating device functioning if used during the cold season.
No allowance is made for airsoft replicas that have an average reading close to the lower end of the next highest fps category. Example- if the replica has an average reading of 351.5 fps it falls within the 20 foot engagement limit.

Again, these rules include a 10fps "tolerance zone". Players will be allowed onto the field if their weapons shoot up to 10.0 fps over the published limit.

Thread with the rule regarding the disclaimer:

miairsoft.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=events&action=display&thread=18431

If you wish to allow hot guns on your field, you must add the requisite disclaimers. If you do not, this thread will be locked and deleted.

[Mosin]

Ahhh sheet, didn't see that one Knief. Not to worry though, found me a CQB spring that I actually had the whole time in my gun bag, just gotta hot swap the cylinder and I'll be good to go. No need to accommodate for me. Carry on now.

[AtsJason]

We had a good friday night, we had a few people drop out for today but, hopefully we will have another good turnout. If you are having any doubts about the field, just swing by, I promise you a good fun day of airsoft.

[ATS]

What an AMAZING Turnout.. Thank you for all the regular Gamers, the Newbies and the folks just stopping by out of curiousioty,. remember uot moto: its YOUR field and you have lept us up and runnng!

We have had a lot of talks about Teams using the place weeknights for practice with themselves or similar teams they normaly go up against, PLEASE, hit us up, RSVP for the nights you want. Jason from Phoenix N has certain people who will attend, in addition to our crews, on Tuesday and Saturday nights, but please, keep on coming, Jason (our Armorer) will still be there ripping through fixes, and.. if you'e read this weekends reviews, you knw he is extrememly tyalented, capable and a real nice guy.. To all who wrote reviews, THANK YOU!!! Seriously, you are the folks who will make this place the premier Infdoor CQB/MilSim, LawSim place in town!!! WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND!!!

We'll post next weekends events and planning later this week, but be sure to PM, email or txt us for reservations during the week (Thu night already closed out for B'Day party).. one and al.. THANK YOU!!!!