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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Apr 21, 2012 14:38:18 GMT -5
I just acquired a KWA KP45 and I have a couple questions.
Does anybody know how to take the sights temporarily off of a KWA KP45?
What stock parts should I replace?
What mags are compatible?
Thanks in advance.
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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Apr 21, 2012 16:11:48 GMT -5
Thread updated/changed a little bit.
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Post by TheEnd on Apr 22, 2012 13:13:49 GMT -5
I have a guide to the KP45/USP pistols in my signature. It shows how to do a complete tear down. It will come in handy if you intend to do any work on it.
To answer your questions:
1. The front site is simply friction fit, use a punch and a hammer and tap it out. Be careful as each time you remove it the friction fit will be looser. The rear sight is held in by an allen screw that passes through the blow back chamber. The pistol should not be cycled without it.
2. KWA pistols don't need anything replaced to work great. They aren't like TM's where every part has an aftermarket replacement. They are not TM spec, so there really aren't many aftermarket parts for them anyway. You can find upgraded hammer and recoil springs, as well as higher quality slides and outer barrels. You might be able to find different inner barrels but I don't see a reason to replace the stock one. Beware of upgrading your springs, the KWA KP45/USP has a weak trigger that is known to snap on just the stock springs. Using it in single action will help prolong it's life.
3. As far as I know the only mags that will fit are KWA NS2. It's possible the KSC System 7 mags will fit but I haven't actually tried so I can't say. KWA NS2 mags are expensive but they are excellent mags.
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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Apr 22, 2012 18:08:09 GMT -5
Thanks man. That answered all of my questions so far. I took it out of the box and I cocked it back, released the slide, pulled the trigger and then... SNAP. The damn trigger broke.
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Post by Italian on Apr 22, 2012 23:19:32 GMT -5
2. KWA pistols don't need anything replaced to work great. They aren't like TM's where every part has an aftermarket replacement. ORLY? I took it out of the box and I cocked it back, released the slide, pulled the trigger and then... SNAP. The damn trigger broke.
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Post by TheEnd on Apr 23, 2012 15:20:27 GMT -5
2. KWA pistols don't need anything replaced to work great. They aren't like TM's where every part has an aftermarket replacement. ORLY? Yes RLY. Aftermarket support for TM GBB pistols is huge. I'm pretty positive someone makes a replacement or upgrade part for almost all of them (except the newest ones). The 1911 and Hi Capa range can probably be built purely from aftermarket parts. KWA on the other hand has almost no aftermarket support. If you want a better piston head for a KWA 1911, I don't think it's available. On a TM 1911 I think there are at least 5 options, PDI makes 2 or 3 themselves. But I like how you took "they aren't like TM's where every part has an aftermarket replacement" and thought "they aren't like TM's where every part needs an aftermarket replacement" and then came and tried to make it look like I don't know what I'm talking about. At no point did I try to make a claim that KWA pistols are better than TM's. The OP asked what stock parts he should replace, and I wanted to point out that KWA pistols aren't like TM's where you can replace anything you want with upgrades. Also, I said they had weak triggers. How was pointing that out to me helpful? I'm replacing a trigger in a customers USP right now, and I've replaced several before. They shoot great until/if the trigger breaks. This site, god damn. Try to help someone and everyone takes shit out of context and just turns the thread into a useless bait post. This is what makes people stop posting.
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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Apr 23, 2012 18:02:41 GMT -5
This site, god damn. Try to help someone and everyone takes shit out of context and just turns the thread into a useless bait post. This is what makes people stop posting. Uhm... just to clarify... was this directed towards me..?
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Post by TheEnd on Apr 23, 2012 18:40:44 GMT -5
No, it was not directed at you. It was directed at the post Italian made because it added nothing and was an attempt to start a brand war because he thought I said KWA was perfect and TM isn't. It seems to be the general theme of MIA.
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Post by Fission on Apr 23, 2012 19:52:50 GMT -5
Well....he is from BROhio...
Italian, please don't make a post like that unless you understand what is being said. Actually since it didn't contribute at all...just don't post things like that.
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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Apr 23, 2012 20:18:22 GMT -5
Well, I'm going to let this situation die and move on. TheEnd, you're replacing a trigger for a customer?
Are you open for people (me) to send you things like that, and ask for installation?
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Post by Knief on Apr 23, 2012 20:25:36 GMT -5
For the record, everything The End said is dead on balls accurate. The only thing I have to add is that KJW's USP series also has a weak trigger. Aside from the release valves, it was always the first part to go on them--it was on mine. I wonder if, because it spans across unrelated brands. it's due to replicating a design in the real steel version (poorly) similar to weak trigger springs in M9s, or if it's just coincidence. I have no experience with a real steel model. If anybody who does can chime in, that'd be fantastic.
Italian,
Have a warning for flame baiting. If you disagree with another member and choose to voice it, write an actual post and provide both support and insight into that support. That ORLY bull shit is disrespectful to whomever you're critiquing and immediately lowers the quality of the discussion in that thread.
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Post by TheEnd on Apr 23, 2012 20:46:22 GMT -5
Basic, I will shoot you a PM.
Ehagendorff brought me his KWA or KSC USPc with a broken trigger, and wanted me to install a real steel trigger. As it turns out the real USP trigger is not a drop in replacement. The holes are too small, and do not fit the 9/64ths pin that KWA uses. I think this is a possible BATFE regulation but it could just be how KWA/KSC chose to do it. I tried drilling the real USP trigger holes out and made near zero progress with high quality machine grade bits. I took it to my friends machine shop and we were able to make some progress with his drill press, but the heat generated from drilling was softening the polymer trigger. A possible defense from HK against modding the trigger.
All said and done, the real steel USP trigger is far and away the strongest metal object I have ever worked with. I've worked with many real steel parts before and this is just in a class of its own. The KWA/KSC trigger is cast from what I can only assume is pot metal. The real steel trigger is obviously strong enough to handle the forces but the cast trigger is just weak. A real steel trigger would solve all the problems if it was able to be modified. Hell, if a company would make a decent metal trigger that wasn't cast it would work great. It's just a case of the material not being strong enough.
Another option would be to mill out part of the frame, and reinforce the trigger arm on the inside.
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Post by Shogun (AKA Basic) on Apr 23, 2012 20:50:04 GMT -5
TheEnd, alrighty. Thanks for the help. For now, I'm just going to order a new KWA trigger. But, if that real steel mod works, I might look into it.
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Post by Mles on Apr 26, 2012 0:31:12 GMT -5
I am going to weigh in a bit here the "What stock parts should I replace?" question. I've held, shot and even owned a few KWA USP's. They are great pieces when maintained well. Although, one thing I advise, is that you clean the hell out of it if it came from the factory. They either A) Overgrease or B) Undergrease. Just give it a quick look over and make sure everything looks ok and you should be fine.
Edit: And in the the future you can use the "edit" button instead of double-posting. And Ehgen, let the moderators do the moderating.
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Post by Gunslinger on Oct 16, 2012 3:05:54 GMT -5
My kwa match mags fit and function in my kp45.
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