Post by Guts and Glory on Apr 5, 2012 15:46:36 GMT -5
Yeah, those vests usually have that. My old utg/condor/etc. vest came with a spare double mag pouch that you could place there instead of the holster.
You could probably find one of those pouches from the company, or just find any kind with velcro already on it.
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But if you're going to do that, why bother with a crossdraw at all? Get MOLLE vest that allows you to place every single pouch you want exactly where you want it. You can carry everything you need and not waste space and weight on pouches that don't serve a function for you (or don't serve that function ideally). There's really only one reason to get a crossdraw these days: ignorance. Given your other choices and your continued unwillingness to learn from those who know much more from you in this hobby, it's pretty clear that's the case here.
Oh, and just a note, kneif, the standard crossdraw has 4 rifle pouches that allow for you to hold 2 mags per pouch. do the math.
Wrong person. But since you bring it up, pretty much every crossdraw I've ever seen places three primary mag pouches on the strong side chest, giving you room for either 3 or 6 M4 mags, depending on how tight those pouches are. I'm sure somebody figured out how to squeeze an extra pouch on and sell a worthless product for more money, but that's far from universal.
 Picture of the basic 3 cell crossdraw design pulled from AirsoftGI:
Post by Sniper Wolf on Apr 5, 2012 22:12:59 GMT -5
I know these guys come off a bit harsh, but they're not trying to offend you or talk crap about your gear- they're trying to help you.
When I started playing airsoft almost 10 years ago now, my brother and I both used crossdraw vests and we thought they were just the coolest damn things. So when I joined up here back in '05, I couldn't believe the amount of money these guys spent on MOLLE gear or why- pouches were sold separately, I'd have to find a new holster, etc- Seemed like too much work when I could use my crossdraw that already was good to go.
Then I started attending ops, and I realize how far from G2G I was. The guys in MOLLE gear reloaded so much faster than I did, and they could pull their pistols in half the time it took me. Not to mention their ability to change up their vests for different guns they wanted to carry, different roles they wanted to play, etc. So while at first I thought I knew better, after that I sat back and fixed myself a plate of humble pie with a side of crow and I started learning from these guys.
And I can tell you right now, best investment I ever made in gear was my Flyye RRV. I've been a medic, I've been a grenadier, 60 gunner, a sniper, a shotgun wielding door kicker, and now I'm a team captain with an M4. All it takes is about 15-20 minutes switching out pouches and I'm ready to resume any of those old gigs.
Take it from a guy who loved the shit out of an old black crossdraw vest- these guys know what they're talking about and they're willing to teach you. All you need to do is listen.
Post by BoredKender on Apr 6, 2012 15:45:47 GMT -5
If you REALLY feel the need to carry your pistol over there, you can make the best of both worlds and shove it in a mag pouch. Most pistols fit decently, secure easily, and have a quicker draw time than dicking around with a buckle/clasp. This still opens up your space for at least 2 more mags and gives versatility on where to keep your pistol. I like mine in the farthest to the left pocket, grip pointing forward so my mags are still in order, my sling doesn't catch on the handle, and it's no less reasonable to access.
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Budget wise, crossdraw vests are some of the worst things you can buy>
Chest Rigs (Pre-built with no MOLLE), are around $20-$30. A good dropleg holster is maybe, $15-$20 A MOLLE pistol holster (That is ambi) is at a definite $15 I saw a decent M4 Chest rig with MOLLE on it on airsoftgi for around $33 Then, you can put more pouches and stuff on it!}
Were not trying to be mean or anything, were just saying the good old quality over crap. Crossdraw vests are crap, as well as overpriced. You can get a nice set of quality gear for around the same price, with practically the same amount of stuff, usually more.
You can save even more money just buy buying gear used. The commerce section/buying and selling of airsoft forums will have plenty of good deals on gear.
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I have thought a few things over, and likewise started looking around airsoftgi's chest rigs. I found one that I think I like. I also found some pouches.
It is an nc star acu m4 chest rig, and I was lookig at some condor hydration packs, oe tech pistol mag pouches, nc star utility pouch, and a SERPA with MOLLE attachment for a glock that I am also going to buy. Links to come when I can get behind a computer.
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^ I agree, ACU is the worst color you can choose for gear. The only camo it looks good with is ACU, and ACU hides you about as well as an elephant in a cherry tree...unless your in Iraq, which your not. Go with a shade of tan, or ranger green.
I think that you are going about this the wrong way. I know that it seems like everyone is saying, "you have to spend more money to fit in." But if you really think about it, we are trying to save you money. If you get that ACU vest, you will probably use it a few times, realize the flaws, and want to get a different vest. If you would just listen to the suggestions that seasoned players like Knief are giving you, you will get a quality product that you wont want to replace in two months. Thus saving you more money in the long run.
Saying that the vests that Knief and Commie linked up have problems because they have "almost zero adjustable straps" is ridiculous. They both can be adjusted to fit just as well as the NC Star vest that you linked.
I would advise against Commies suggestion due to the lack of MOLLE, but the Eagle vest that Knief linked would do everything you need it to and more. The only thing that would have to be figured out is hydration, but that isn't that big of an issue.
The Eagle chest rig can be adjusted to fit any size person, save perhals a 5 year old and fatty fat fatso. It'll fit you. Yes, it has half the mag capacity, but you're buying 8 mags. Six on the vest, one in the gun, and an oh shit mag in a cargo pocket and you're carrying all the mids you own. It costs twice as much because it's far far better. You'll get tired of that ACU piece of junk quickly (or want to replace it because you want to switch patterns), but if you don't it'll wear out on you in short order. The Eagle chest rig will last you your entire career. If you buy tan or green, you'll have little reason to replace it, and it will provide you woth a go-to light weight rig for as long as you play airsoft.
You're looking for reasons to dislike our suggestions. If you just want us to confirm for you that the oiece if shit equipment you pick out is worth the money, don't bother posting. We're not here to make you feel good about your choices. We're here to get you the best gear for you. If you're not open to that, there are plenty of boards out there that will pat you on the back and give you an attaboy for whatever link you post.