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Post by Biz on Feb 6, 2012 23:24:26 GMT -5
You can also look into asgi's g4 line(combat machine with more variety). A jls scar is not something "worth bringing to an event" , crappy jg's and other companies like them just barely keep up with a stock g&p, kwa, g&g, etc, let alone an upgraded one....but a jls scar, just garbage. Will break very quickly, waisting 150$, when you could have bought a combat machine for 130$, that will last much longer. Ask anyone in this site, I can just about garuntee they think a combat machine is just awesome for the price you pay.
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Post by Myers on Feb 7, 2012 14:30:06 GMT -5
Why would you buy a JLS SCAR over a D-BOYS/Echo 1 SCAR? Guys, stop trying to help this kid. Let him make his own idiotic mistakes because it's pretty clear hes not going to take anyones advice seriously.
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Post by Alex-(BM_5) on Feb 7, 2012 15:18:07 GMT -5
Why would you buy a JLS SCAR over a D-BOYS/Echo 1 SCAR? Guys, stop trying to help this kid. Let him make his own idiotic mistakes because it's pretty clear hes not going to take anyones advice seriously. In case you don't remember cybergun basically shut down echo1's and dboys' scar operation. Instead of flipping out on this kid do your own research.
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Post by Ike on Feb 7, 2012 15:33:45 GMT -5
Okay. I will save up a bit more to get the jg. Now, I was just wondering if you guys don't want me to buy the gear that I posted just because it was made by rap4, a paintball retailer, or is the gear just crap? Outlaw, It's not about what we want you to buy, it's about what you want. You asked for advice and feedback on certain guns, and we gave it to you. It's up to you to make the decision, we aren't here to make it for you. What the members here are trying to do is provide you with what we know and our experiences so that you can make an informed decision. Personally, I'd avoid the JLS SCAR. If you're dead set on getting a SCAR, which seems unlikely based on the way that you've been bouncing from gun to gun and asking our opinions about them, then save your money and get the licensed version (G&G, I believe) or whatever else you can find in stock. If you're willing to be a little more open-minded and take our advice, go with a G&G Combat Machine. They don't use the very best internal parts out there, but they're well put together which has a large (positive) impact on how long they will last. They're cheap, and perform very well for the price. In the end though, this is your decision. We're here to give you information to make an informed decision, not to make the decision for you. Go with what you want, but keep in mind what has been said about certain brands and models in this thread.
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Post by outlaw25 on Feb 7, 2012 21:45:04 GMT -5
I have thought about what has been said, and did some more research. I figured that I will just find a gun on my own, after seeing how this is turning out to just be a big argument between me and the community. Therefore, I believe that I should start asking about the rest of my gear.
That being said, let's start with the spare mags that I will be getting. They will be m4 mags, because whatever gun I get, it will use m4 mags. I was thinking about getting the gb 300 round quick wind hicaps. They would be perfect for me as a beginner because with the quick wind tool that it comes with, I could be ready to play within minutes.
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Post by Alex-(BM_5) on Feb 7, 2012 21:48:31 GMT -5
It depends, if you plan on getting a vest or something that will hold mags right away I'd suggest getting mid caps. If you aren't getting all of this at the same time I would go with high caps because carrying around a bunch of mids in your pockets isn't very useful.
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Post by Knief on Feb 7, 2012 22:18:07 GMT -5
The only reason this is turning into an argument is because you keep asking for advice, ignoring it, then insisting on whatever it is that you already want. If there's some gun that you want to buy no matter what we say, then buy it and don't ask for advice. If all you want is affirmation then head over to airsoft retreat or wherever. We're not here to make you feel good about buying crap, we're here to warn you away from that crap. It's frustrating to keep telling you the same thing over and over and watch you ignore it then ask for more help like you're not just going to ignore it all again.
My honest assessment at this point is that you're probably not capable of picking out a decent gun on your own. That doesn't mean that you have to let us pick for you, nobody here is going to take away your right to buy whatever piece of shit you have your eyes set on. But if you want something that offers competitive performance and reasonable stock durability, you clearly won't land it on your own. I know this sounds insulting, and that's because it probably is. It's also the truth of the matter. So your choice is to have a bruised ego and a bad gun or suck it up, accept your current short comings and take our advice. Just let us know which one you want to do so we know whether we should keep helping you or stop wasting our collective time.
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Post by Deaf_intheleft on Feb 7, 2012 22:22:56 GMT -5
Knief has such a way with words. He makes "shut the hell up you immature 12 old and take our advice" sound so elegant.
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Post by a1 (Babez) on Feb 7, 2012 22:55:35 GMT -5
I like this thread.
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Post by Knief on Feb 8, 2012 7:58:37 GMT -5
This isn't a rag on outlaw thread, guys. If he decides that he wants the help that he asks for, then we help him. If not, then we can just let it die.
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Post by Gimpalong on Feb 8, 2012 11:27:07 GMT -5
Outlaw,
The only things you absolutely must have to participate in an airsoft game are:
Good eye protection Airsoft gun 1 high capacity magazine 1 battery 1 battery charger
On top of that, you'll probably want: Good boots some sort of uniform
Once you purchase the required items mentioned above and go to a few games you should then start thinking about what other stuff (extra magazines, plate carrier, etc) that you want.
Your first step should be to acquire the basics and attend a few games.
If you find that you hate airsoft then you haven't invested much. If you find that you love it, your experience at these first games will give you an idea about what you need to purchase moving forward.
Don't start off thinking you need to buy everything. Just get what you need and take some time to figure out what you want as far as gear and extra kit goes.
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Post by Crapshoot on Feb 8, 2012 17:27:35 GMT -5
Hell, you don't even need a high cap for your first game. You could even show up with a 14+1 capacity gas blowback 1911, if you wanted to.
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Post by outlaw25 on Feb 12, 2012 22:29:57 GMT -5
Ok. I am going to take a chance with a full metal boyi dboys m4 with a peq box and forgrip. I know that you guys will think that it is utter shit and will break easily and crap, but I am kind of taking gimpalong's advice as too I am going to buy the gun, one spare mag ( I have a large pocket on my combat pants that I could use as a mag pouch), a small bottle of 2000 .2 bbs and one 5-hour game time at eastside airsoft.
On an unrelated side, you guys ( especially you, kneif) should watch what guns you suggested after I gave something that was comparable to a walmart brand spring pistol, like you guys suggest a jg to me, which is a big time mpeg, then you say that jgs and all other mpegs suck.
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Post by Alex-(BM_5) on Feb 12, 2012 22:37:48 GMT -5
I've had nothing but luck with dboys so it should be fine. Just make sure its shooting under 350 or you won't be playing at ESA until you get it shooting softer.
Basically here is my idea on all guns, any gun will last you if treated correctly. While your at eastside you may want to have them shim the gun and check the AOE for you so it doesn't have any major problems out of the box.
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Post by Tank on Feb 12, 2012 23:55:33 GMT -5
I need to stop poking around the most recent threads with activity. I have played with the guys that are tring to help you, and read through past posts that show the quantity and variety of equipment they have owned. They have seen it all. They have also walked many new comers down the right path, and seen the results of many bad decisions. I just got done reading this entire thread. Yes they did say the JG is the cheapest gun that you should purchase. It may be cheap, it will likely even break way sooner than a higher quality replica. The reason why they mention it is because it can be a good base to build upon. They are compatible with upgrade parts, and in its stock form, will still last a while. Are they great, no, but are they a throw-away gun, also no. I own a higher end M4, and have still considered buying a JG, of a different model, just to see what I could do as far as modding it goes. Please keep in mind, they are not out to bash you and just tell you everything you pick is garbage. There just happens to be a good deal of crap out there. All of the brands/models they have said are crap, I have seen the same said across multiple other forums. I'm not just trying to stick up for my friends, they probably couldn't even put a face to my callsign. Not a knock on you guys either, I just haven't done anything or made any contributions noteworthy to get your notice. Yet. Edit: Wow. I just realized that what I just said could have been misconstrued as me trying to get your attention. It wasn't, believe me.
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