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Post by Dallas on Oct 8, 2011 13:02:24 GMT -5
My first time at Phoenix Tactical, I was playing against a guy (Don't ask me his name, but he's on the forum) who had an LTD (I don't know if that's a real acronym, tell me if it isn't) on his gun. When I played on his side, I was very helpful to have, basically, a beacon showing where the enemy was hiding. To add on to that, we were playing CQB. It was also frightening to be on the receiving end of the laser, as I fell victim to it multiple times.
I was wondering if anyone knew what the U.S. Military uses for their rifles, and if this would be a good investment for later on. I am already saving up for a new MOLLE vest and my first pistol, so price isn't an object since this is somewhat in the far future. I want this to be a thread that other newcomers can use as a reference if they become interested.
Thanks a lot!
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Post by dufflebag on Oct 8, 2011 13:22:19 GMT -5
A PEQ box? Like a PEQ-15 or 16?
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Post by beta08 on Oct 8, 2011 13:25:59 GMT -5
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Post by Dallas on Oct 8, 2011 15:00:44 GMT -5
No, the person was using a red laser, had a plastic skull face mask, and wore ACUs. But, yeah, that's basically what he had except it had a red laser. |
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Post by ctres on Oct 8, 2011 16:16:20 GMT -5
Does the color of the laser really matter? As long as it does it's job it seems like it wouldn't make a difference. I actually think that the green laser is way cooler anyways, and I'm pretty sure that the pro&t green laser peq15 has a visible beam at night which is really awesome. As for options and realism, them military pretty much uses aiming "boxes" like the peq15 linked to above. Other ones that are used are called the peq2 (older version) and the peq 16 (even newer than the peq 15). All of them are still in use to some extent. The real ones are actually infrared, visible only with nvgs, and I believe some also have white light/visible lasers as well (peq 16 I think). These are all made by insight and are over $1k generally, except maybe a used peq2 on ebay. As far as replicas go, G&P makes really good peq2 replicas, and the pro&t is probably the best peq15.
Your other option would be a basic laser module attached to the rail with some sort of ring.
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Post by Knief on Oct 8, 2011 16:39:55 GMT -5
The only worry about those green lasers is that the beam is much more intense, usually around 5 mW as opposed to the <1mW that most red lasers put out. The extra power makes the green laser more useful during the day, but it also means that its capable of doing minor damage to the eye in less than the time that it takes to trigger your blink reflex. And over a few seconds, can do some more serious retinal damage. The lower powered red lasers are largely incapable of doing minor damage quickly or more serious damage without prolonged exposure.
I'd prefer not to see green lasers on the field at all, but if that's not possible than we can at least try to steer people toward the safer alternative when possible.
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Post by ctres on Oct 8, 2011 19:31:14 GMT -5
I totally agree. I think that most people don't understand that any type of laser can really do serious damage to the eyes if used improperly. Even in school and with friends, I have warned people who ignorantly joke around and point any laser pointer at anyone's eyes. I personally don't know exactly what to think about green lasers on the field though. As long as they are used with caution and are never intentionally pointed at someone's eyes I think that the risk is extremely small. In the same way that most "non real" airsofters don't seem to understand the danger that realistic airsoft replicas impose, I think that many airsofters just don't understand the dangers of lasers. Rather than banishing or discouraging them, I think that it would be more constructive to instead raise a little more awareness about them, as they can be really cool.
In all reality, I think that lasers have a fairly limited usefulness in airsoft applications, but at the same time, I would never want something on my gun that has absolutely no function at all (like a hollow plastic peq that is not being used for something else like a battery).
I think that the most important thing for anyone with a laser is that that person understand the capabilities of the laser, and the damage that it can do. Only if the user is fully aware of these things, can he make smart and safe decisions about the use of such a device.
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Post by Dallas on Oct 8, 2011 19:57:16 GMT -5
The only worry about those green lasers is that the beam is much more intense, usually around 5 mW as opposed to the <1mW that most red lasers put out. The extra power makes the green laser more useful during the day, but it also means that its capable of doing minor damage to the eye in less than the time that it takes to trigger your blink reflex. And over a few seconds, can do some more serious retinal damage. The lower powered red lasers are largely incapable of doing minor damage quickly or more serious damage without prolonged exposure. I'd prefer not to see green lasers on the field at all, but if that's not possible than we can at least try to steer people toward the safer alternative when possible. I realize this about green lasers, which is why I would prefer a red laser. Also, red is a bit more visible over longer ranges than a green one if you are in the field. |
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Post by snafu on Oct 8, 2011 20:41:58 GMT -5
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Post by Dallas on Oct 8, 2011 21:51:51 GMT -5
Haha, no... BTW, were you at Phoenix tonight? I though I recognized your symbol. Just asking. |
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Post by Dev on Oct 19, 2011 19:31:52 GMT -5
Any opinion on the ehobby PEQ? I'm looking for one exactly like that but can't for the life of me find one in stock anywhere in the US. -Dan |
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