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Post by Knief on Oct 9, 2011 21:11:24 GMT -5
90% of what Miles said is 100% accurate. However, he neglects KSC, who makes guns on par with TM, and has been making quality GBBs for longer. The benefit that most TMs have over KSC is the vast availability of aftermarket parts. There aren't nearly as many upgrades for KSC GBBs as there are for TMs. Outside of that, there isn't a whole lot that sets the two manufacturers apart in terms of quality, performance, aesthetics or reliability. The only exception to that is TM's older model guns.
Prior to the release of their 1911, and maybe even starting with their Hicapa, TMs GBB performed decently (not spectacularly like they do today) and looked very plastic-y. If all you wanted was a shooter, they were still a good bet. But if wanted a gun that looked as good as it shot, they were second rate. This still holds true for their older models still in production, like their M9 and Glock lines. For those models, you really want to find the KSC equivalent if you can. Mostly you'll have to order from overseas to get a true KSC and not a KWA (better than most Taiwanese, but not great, and their non PTP models are absolute garbage), but they really are worth it.
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Post by Dallas on Oct 9, 2011 21:30:49 GMT -5
Honestly, just buy a TM. They make the best GBB on the market right now. You'd be foolish not to. If you really want a model that KWA specifically makes, buy it, but expect problems down the road. I've had my KWA M9 PTP for almost 9 months now and the only problem I had was that the right safety lever fell off due to a loose screw that holds it in place. It still works and functions well without it. As for performance, my mags don't leak, the gas system still runs flawlessly, and I can't really complain about anything else. But problems can and most likely will happen in the future. But you are right, TM makes the best GBBs right now. So Dallas, whatever you decide, I'm sure it will be a good choice after all the research you're doing and from our suggestions. Thanks for the vote of support. Please, if any of you know of what guns to avoid, feel free to tell me. I have almost narrowed my selection down, but some gaps need to be filled as far as quality. Will be adding list of candidates soon.
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Post by Mles on Oct 9, 2011 22:17:39 GMT -5
You need to do your own research. What type of model do you like? You need to have some rough idea of what you want before you ask us to give you models to avoid.
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Post by Dallas on Oct 10, 2011 8:28:43 GMT -5
You need to do your own research. What type of model do you like? You need to have some rough idea of what you want before you ask us to give you models to avoid. I have been doing research, but I have now decided to go with an M1911. I'm not sure what to look out for though, as I am still something of a noob. I can only really see the obvious flaws in a gun, but technicalities are something I'm still learning. If I don't know what is bad and what is good in a gun, I will probably end up getting with the lesser of the choices. I will conduct the research, just tell me what to avoid in a gun. I'll post a list of the candidates, have some comments about what I have learned about it, and then you can correct me if necessary. For me, this is a learning process, and I need some help along the way.
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Post by Knief on Oct 10, 2011 9:02:57 GMT -5
Read reviews of the brands and models that you're interested in and learn for yourself what is and isn't good. We've already talked about which brands typically make the best GBBs, so if you stick with that you'll be in good shape. Use Google and find reviews. www.justpistols.co.uk is a good place to start.
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Post by Mles on Oct 10, 2011 9:07:00 GMT -5
You need to do your own research. What type of model do you like? You need to have some rough idea of what you want before you ask us to give you models to avoid. I have been doing research, but I have now decided to go with an M1911. I'm not sure what to look out for though, as I am still something of a noob. I can only really see the obvious flaws in a gun, but technicalities are something I'm still learning. If I don't know what is bad and what is good in a gun, I will probably end up getting with the lesser of the choices. I will conduct the research, just tell me what to avoid in a gun. I'll post a list of the candidates, have some comments about what I have learned about it, and then you can correct me if necessary. For me, this is a learning process, and I need some help along the way. Buy a TM 1911. Done and done. You won't find anything better on the market for the price.
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Post by Dallas on Oct 10, 2011 9:22:55 GMT -5
I have been doing research, but I have now decided to go with an M1911. I'm not sure what to look out for though, as I am still something of a noob. I can only really see the obvious flaws in a gun, but technicalities are something I'm still learning. If I don't know what is bad and what is good in a gun, I will probably end up getting with the lesser of the choices. I will conduct the research, just tell me what to avoid in a gun. I'll post a list of the candidates, have some comments about what I have learned about it, and then you can correct me if necessary. For me, this is a learning process, and I need some help along the way. Buy a TM 1911. Done and done. You won't find anything better on the market for the price. Oh, ok. I was getting ready for a storm of recommendations, but this simplifies everything. Thanks a ton.
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