Maruzen MP5K review

[Hadoken]

I'm sure some of you might be interested in this little pea shooter. Redwolf Airsoft recently posted a review of the new Maruzen MP5K GBB.

Doesn't look too bad, but the hollow pistol grip really bugs me for some reason. If it's anything like Ballista's M11 it'll be a blast to shoot.

Quick...someone buy one for me to try
*whip*

[Bigmack]

there was one on Ebay i saw...80 bucks was the price....of course...probly gone up...

[PimP]

I think I am going to buy one here pretty soon...I've been waiting to buy another sidearm till they came out.

[Ed]

I don't think it's that good.

A big thing for me on gas guns is the ability to use green gas, which the MP5K doesn't have (it only uses 134a).  This means that it will never have the range of an AEG.  The hollow grip means that you can never drop your gun, if you crack the grip, it could spread to the receiver or shatter the whole grip itself.

I say just spend the $35 extra and get the AEG, they have a Ver. 3 gearbox and you can get a slew of accessories.

[Locutus]

Ed, because it uses lower powered gas doesnt mean it doesnt have good range or power. the Western Arms and TM GBBs also use hfc134a, and those guns have just as good of range if not better than there taiwanese counterparts which use high power green gas. Its not the gas that matters, its how you use it.   The Japanese guns use the gas more efficiently.

[Ed]

Most TM and WA guns use Green Gas out of the box (I have friends with both).  I also read in the review of the MP5K that because of the lack of power, they tried to use green gas, which wouldn't work.  I own a Maruzen PPK (with uses only 134a), and it has half the range as a WA or TM handgun.

I might be wrong, but I am talking from experiance.

[Locutus]

I am speaking from experience as well, and TM and WA guns DO NOT take Green Gas. Sure, it can use it, but your gun wont last long, certainly if it isn't upgraded to handle it.

[Ed]

The TM Beretta Military Model can surely take green gas ( www.redwolfairsoft.com/gas-tm.htm ), so can the WA Beretta Perfect.  I have seen NO problems with their guns and they shoot fine.  When I try to put green gas in my PPK clip, it shoots it all out.  I'm sure some TM and WA guns don't use it, but they should.

[retraw]

I hate this. I bet that the gun shoots a hundred times better and a hundred times harder than my mp5 electric.

[PerfectGlock]

I believe the real MP5 has a hollow grip frame.

[Locutus]

Ed, yes there are some retailers that claim certain japanese guns can take Green Gas out of the box, however, TM and WA guns (including the ones you mentioned) are DESIGNED to be used with hfc134a.  I have used TM and WA guns with hfc134a, as well as their knockoff taiwanese counterparts using green gas, and in EVERY instance the guns using the hfc134a were comparable or superior to the taiwanese versions.

From DumboRAT's Gas Primer on ASZ:

"Strangely, many Taiwanese-made GBB's require the use of the "more powerful" Taiwanese "Green Gas" in order to achieve the same muzzle velocity as Japanese GBB's do while using the considerably "less powerful" HFC134a. This is perhaps the single factor that demonstrates the superior performance engineering of the Japanese GBB's. Ironically, most Japanese GBB's are not built for the abuse that constant use of Taiwanese "Green Gas" can inflict on a GBB. The above consensus of using only HFC134a in Japanese-made GBB's spawned from some players' misfortune of having suffered various broken parts due to the use of various brands of Taiwanese "Green Gasses" (and other gasses that are "higher-powered" than HFC134a) in their expensive Japanese GBB's. "

This primer can be found here: www.airsoftzone.com/forums/message.cfm?topic_id=533&forum_id=11

It is an excellent writeup of the gases used in our GBBs, and I recommend anyone who is interested in GBBs to give this a thorough read.

[Ed]

I read the whole thing, you're right it's a very well written report.  DumboRat is as smart as he is verbose.

If you had only metioned that from the beginning...