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Post by Carnage on Jun 29, 2011 17:35:07 GMT -5
Connors, if you look at the center of the gun where the mags go, it it's an M1911 because of the grip and because the trigger has the holes in it. In which case: In my second opinion, it looks like an M93 Raffica, an M1911, a G18C, and an M14 EBR had a foursome.
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Post by triggs on Jun 29, 2011 19:35:34 GMT -5
Connors, if you look at the center of the gun where the mags go, it it's an M1911 because of the grip and because the trigger has the holes in it. In which case: In my second opinion, it looks like a 2011, LR300, M93R and M14 EBR had a foursome. Fixed All I can say is Damn that's ugly ass baby.... Got this in today. Took it out with big brother.
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Post by Knief on Jun 29, 2011 19:56:26 GMT -5
It's the SVI Gigant. WA put out like, three of them way back in maybe 2003-2004 or so. At the time, I was really really into WA guns, and never knew of anybody who actually bought one. It's based on a Strayer Voigt 2011 design, but turned into a carbine. It's not a bad idea, and I bet is's really powerful. My 2011 with a 7ish inch barrel puts out over 400 FPS, whereas the standard 5 inch barrel puts out more like 315 FPS with identical internals. A barrel that long would help it pack a punch, as long as it releases enough gas to push the bb all the way through the barrel (I assume it would or they wouldn't have made it).
It's not my cup of tea, but I can see the appeal of it, too.
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Post by Ct Man on Jun 29, 2011 20:31:21 GMT -5
In the center, M40a3. Took some work, but now shes ready to go.
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Post by Mles on Jun 29, 2011 20:31:38 GMT -5
It's the SVI Gigant. WA put out like, three of them way back in maybe 2003-2004 or so. At the time, I was really really into WA guns, and never knew of anybody who actually bought one. It's based on a Strayer Voigt 2011 design, but turned into a carbine. It's not a bad idea, and I bet is's really powerful. My 2011 with a 7ish inch barrel puts out over 400 FPS, whereas the standard 5 inch barrel puts out more like 315 FPS with identical internals. A barrel that long would help it pack a punch, as long as it releases enough gas to push the bb all the way through the barrel (I assume it would or they wouldn't have made it). It's not my cup of tea, but I can see the appeal of it, too. I believe they released more than three, but yes, this piece is incredibly rare. Beautiful thing is that I picked it with 4 extended magazines, original box and paperwork and all accessories for $400. I've only shot a couple rounds through it, I'm sure it is getting around 420 FPS.
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Post by fuzzywolly on Jun 29, 2011 20:44:12 GMT -5
Ct man, where did you get another G-Spec? I thought the m40a3 was a G-Spec turned into a m40a3?
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Post by Ct Man on Jun 29, 2011 20:50:53 GMT -5
Ct man, where did you get another G-Spec? I thought the m40a3 was a G-Spec turned into a m40a3? Your right. The stock it's self is more of the recent acquistion. But fuzzy, I got somthing on the way, I think you'll like what I have in mind!
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Post by Knief on Jun 29, 2011 20:56:58 GMT -5
Miles, I meant 3 models, not 3 individual pieces. They had one with a stock, one without, and I think a full auto version. They weren't any more or less rare than any other limited run WA, which is most of their production line. And they certainly weren't more sought after than the SCW 1 Wilson Combat CQB in all black, which, perhaps after the older Magna system SVI Hybrid lines, was the most desirable WAs ever produced. I've got the more common OD framed version, but could never get my hands on the all black model. [edit] Here ya go, the three listed on WGC: www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=category&item=WA-PS-IFL&search=special&rs=WA%20Handguns&catid=7&cat=17www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=category&item=WA-PS-IFM&search=special&rs=WA%20Handguns&catid=7&cat=17www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=category&item=WA-PS-IFN&search=special&rs=WA%20Handguns&catid=7&cat=17
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Post by Mles on Jun 29, 2011 21:07:48 GMT -5
Miles, I meant 3 models, not 3 individual pieces. They had one with a stock, one without, and I think a full auto version. They weren't any more or less rare than any other limited run WA, which is most of their production line. And they certainly weren't more sought after than the SCW 1 Wilson Combat CQB in all black, which, perhaps after the older Magna system SVI Hybrid lines, was the most desirable WAs ever produced. I've got the more common OD framed version, but could never get my hands on the all black model. Ah, well I have been looking for a WA Gigant for a while now, and this is the only one that has popped up. I'm almost positive there were only 2 models, the full kit and the one without the stock. Although they did do a very short run of an all silver Gigant without a stock. All versions were FA, based right off the FA Prokiller. I'll research a bit more into it later if there were really 3 models.. I've seen maybe one other WA Gigant complete set stateside. I wouldn't classify an all black SCW1 Wilson Combat CQB as most "desirable", maybe most rare, but not desirable. You could easily piece one together out of aftermarket parts, for pretty cheap too (speaking in WA prices..). I haven't really seen many of the Magna P.14's, I believe those are pretty high up there in rarity. EDIT: I stand corrected, three models. I didn't know they specifically made another set with the stock.
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Post by Knief on Jun 29, 2011 21:18:21 GMT -5
Nah, the P.14s just weren't very popular. They were in stock for years at most of the big HK retailers. I thought about buying one many a time while searching down the black Wilson Combat, but I always had to remind myself that I don't really like the Para Ordnances.
Trust me though, those black Wilson Combats were all the rage. You could put one together, but you could put just about anything together. Getting your hands on an original was like finding the golden ticket in your candy bar, only they cost a hell of a lot more than a candy bar.
You're definitely right about all of the Gigants being full auto, though. I never knew that they were based off of the Prokiller until I saw the PK2 in the descriptions from my links above. I think on of the biggest reasons why you don't see them much is because they didn't sell very well. They were available for a long time (by WA standards), but there wasn't a lot of interest. A fun as they are, I think most people thought they were just too over the top and completely impractical. With the cost of mags and the limited ammo, they just weren't field-able as a primary under any normal circumstances. And obviously their size prohibits them from being used as a secondary pretty much at all.
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Post by Mles on Jun 29, 2011 21:24:35 GMT -5
Nah, the P.14s just weren't very popular. They were in stock for years at most of the big HK retailers. I thought about buying one many a time while searching down the black Wilson Combat, but I always had to remind myself that I don't really like the Para Ordnances. Trust me though, those black Wilson Combats were all the rage. You could put one together, but you could put just about anything together. Getting your hands on an original was like finding the golden ticket in your candy bar, only they cost a hell of a lot more than a candy bar. You're definitely right about all of the Gigants being full auto, though. I never knew that they were based off of the Prokiller until I saw the PK2 in the descriptions from my links above. I think on of the biggest reasons why you don't see them much is because they didn't sell very well. They were available for a long time (by WA standards), but there wasn't a lot of interest. A fun as they are, I think most people thought they were just too over the top and completely impractical. With the cost of mags and the limited ammo, they just weren't field-able as a primary under any normal circumstances. And obviously their size prohibits them from being used as a secondary pretty much at all. I know they did a lot of runs of the SCW'ed P.14's, but I have seen only a handful of Magna P.14's. Quite honestly, buying this Gigant was completely impulse. I really wanted the 2011 50 rounders, but when the guy gave me the offer for the complete package I said why not? So I did. The build quality is actually really good for how old the gun actually is. My only complaint is that the charging handle folds in on itself when firing and the stock wobbles just a bit. I still need to check if the hop-up is fixed or adjustable, I'm just a little scared to disassemble this beast. The other Prokiller pictured is a semi-auto only version. It shoots pretty hot, but is deadly accurate. SD slide and springs - makes it a wonderful shooter.
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Post by fuzzywolly on Jun 29, 2011 22:15:48 GMT -5
Ct man, where did you get another G-Spec? I thought the m40a3 was a G-Spec turned into a m40a3? But fuzzy, I got somthing on the way, I think you'll like what I have in mind! I like where this is going. ;D L96?
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Post by Ct Man on Jun 29, 2011 22:40:00 GMT -5
But fuzzy, I got somthing on the way, I think you'll like what I have in mind! I like where this is going. ;D L96? No Sir, Closer to what you have *Cough* V. *Cough* S. *Cough* R. *Cough*
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Post by Ike on Jul 11, 2011 23:19:31 GMT -5
I just picked up this beauty, for a good price too, and all it needed was a little TLC. Unfortunately it's already on the chopping block.
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 12, 2011 11:46:13 GMT -5
I came a little. What brand, dude?
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