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Post by Great Troub of Troubistan on Oct 9, 2009 19:40:10 GMT -5
My only complaint is one of your complaints... "Its not called DARPAT." Its not called Desert MARPAT either, its Arid MARPAT. CADPAT is called Arid. My MCCUU's are labeled Desert MARPAT (and woodland, because I have both). To shore up my argument: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARPATI've been told by soldiers that it was called Arid, so I took their word for it. |
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Post by Legionnaire on Oct 20, 2009 20:03:06 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm necro posting but I just had to say what an EXCELLENT guide this is. Very nice job Knife. My only complaint is in the VESTS: section you broke off in mid sentence (might have hit the enter key on accident) while talking about the MBSS and it created a new bullet point.
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Post by King on Oct 20, 2009 20:50:51 GMT -5
I've been told by soldiers that it was called Arid, so I took their word for it. It makes sense that they called it Arid, because a Marine would have known it was Desert. Awesome writeup Knife, wish I had the cash to do a proper impression. |
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Post by K_MAN on Oct 20, 2009 21:27:41 GMT -5
+1 on the find! Setting up my new load out to be a MEU/MFR, but I am going to have OD green MOLLE gear for here in MI.
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Post by Dahm on Oct 20, 2009 21:54:13 GMT -5
Awesome writeup Knife, wish I had the cash to do a proper impression. Same.. Hellfish could really rock a good Marine loadout.. |
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Post by Great Troub of Troubistan on Oct 20, 2009 22:17:25 GMT -5
I've been told by soldiers that it was called Arid, so I took their word for it. It makes sense that they called it Arid, because a Marine would have known it was Desert. Awesome writeup Knife, wish I had the cash to do a proper impression. A Marine is a soldier. |
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Post by Knife on Oct 20, 2009 23:23:59 GMT -5
Thanks Cravona, I believe I fixed it. King, if you get replica gear its not that bad. You guys should have done this when I mentioned it like... 8 months ago.  |
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Post by King on Oct 21, 2009 8:13:13 GMT -5
King, if you get replica gear its not that bad. You guys should have done this when I mentioned it like... 8 months ago. 8 months ago I had the same CB Wasatch I have now. There is a reason for that haha. $$$ It makes sense that they called it Arid, because a Marine would have known it was Desert. Awesome writeup Knife, wish I had the cash to do a proper impression. A Marine is a soldier. Tell that to a Marine. |
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Post by Great Troub of Troubistan on Oct 21, 2009 8:23:26 GMT -5
Wouldn't be the first time I've pissed off a group of Marines.
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Post by King on Oct 21, 2009 8:24:22 GMT -5
I guess that's something to be proud of.
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Post by Knife on Oct 21, 2009 10:02:59 GMT -5
Mosin, I'm sure some of this information is definitely outdated. Information only slowly and after gets out to civilians. What specifically did you find incorrect? I've attempted to put out the best guide possible with that is definitively known. I'm aware that private purchases do happen and other gear is used, but its not as common so I've tried to remain in the realm of what's issued. If you could get pictures, that would be awesome. Yes, I should have mentioned patches. That said, I've never planned on wearing anything that is directly related to a unit.
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Post by Mosin on Oct 21, 2009 10:30:26 GMT -5
The stuff I found outdated I already made a point of, as well as a few technical things (Marking the RCO's and EOTech's). But I'll take a few pictures today and give the guide a good reading and try and get the best information possible out there. I apologize if the impression was bashing on it, because I definately don't mean it to be like that. If anything I want to see Michigan being the ones at the big games that stand out for being so locked on  -Moosin EDIT: You mention in the post that it'll make people look like Force Recon, MSOB/Marsoc, and Recon guys. Recon is the same thing as Force Recon. Although the missions are "tweeked" a little different. I hardly hear anyone refer to themselves as "Force Recon". They'll usually just say Recon and you get the idea. The Laser sights we use now are PEQ-16/A's. They're a little heavier, but they make up for that by having a built in surefire light. We also mount them on the sides in most cases, because we have 24 Charlies (NVG attachment over the sight) that will get in the way of the PEQ boxes. Also, I don't know anyone that refers to desert cammies as "Arid". We just call them Desert MCCUU's. At least, that's what it says on my blouses and trousers. Sidearms: They also issue the M9 Service Pistol to some. Taking the Colt 1911 is something that the batallion CO or whoever is running the show will make the call on. But either way, you can't go wrong with either choice. DMR's: The M40 is a Sniper Rifle, not a DMR Shotgun: We also carry the Benilli Super 90 whatever it's called. Semi Auto, holds 9 rounds. IFAK: Mine is made by H&H Associates. Pouches: There really isn't a wrong way to go about this. Most of our pouches that are issued go out the door, and we'll usually go hit up blackhawk or the PX for anything that fits the job and works good. Main thing is make sure things are streamline and match the color scheme. Not bad though listing some ideas to go with. Accessories: We usually always carry the Gerber/Leatherman on our belts, along with a benchmade. I carry mine personally for having to be able to take off clothes in a jiffy to get to the site for first aid functions. My benchmade I got in Combat Trauma Management but you can pick them up in any sort of surplus store for no more than $35-$40. The piece you're talking about made out of PVC is called a "hooligan's holder" as our PMC's call it. It can hold as said in the name, a hooligan. Which is pretty much the ultra tool when it comes to breaching without the use of explosives or gunpowder. As far as the magpul stock goes, I've never seen it used in any training I've done with FR. They usually just use the standard issued stock that comes with the M4. Chemlights, or "Glowsticks" as referred here are a big part of the mission. Usually each man carries 15-20 of these in his dump pouch, or maybe a special bag for it. They can be used to mark a clean room, mark the dead, or mark an LZ for a hasty buzz saw exfiltration or casevac. The OPSEC in me says not to say what colors mean what, but come up with your own SOP when you're playing with friends. That's all I got. I have to run, but I'll be on later tomorrow most likely to check this out again. If you've got any more questions on stuff, just let me know. -Mosin |
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Post by Zorak on Oct 21, 2009 16:19:13 GMT -5
I wonder how long it took Halligan to become hooligan?
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Post by Mosin on Oct 23, 2009 2:01:37 GMT -5
I have no idea. But what I do know is how to use that there hooligan. It's not a bad toy to do basic breechins' with. I hope the information I provided helped you guys out with your loadouts. But yeah, I'm off to commence rack ops. My ears are ringing right now from throwing about 10 flashbangs myself. I'll post up some of my pictures when I'm settled in back home for the next two weeks.
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Post by Jumprefusal on Oct 23, 2009 19:10:32 GMT -5
My benchmade I got in Combat Trauma Management but you can pick them up in any sort of surplus store for no more than $35-$40. Are you talking the spring loaded benchmade? Just a quick note and somebody correct me if I'm wrong, a Border Patrol guy in Port Huron told me they are illegal unless you are LE/Fire/Rescue/Military. I had that confirmed by a Port Huron cop, but he didn't seem terribly sure. I imagine they are like switchblades, you can buy it but don't carry it. /end advice (although if you carry a blade playing airsoft, you need to go play in traffic) |
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