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Post by arguablycrassic on Aug 31, 2010 0:51:20 GMT -5
Hey everyone. This is my dilemma.
I'm a slave to appearances and I'm not a member of a team yet. The only airsoft areas around me seem to be mostly CQB. In most of them, there is a majority of playing in the dark. So I decided to find a BDU that would work in that kind of environment.
Instantly i think urban digital, right? Well there's where the first problem comes into play. I don't want to select a personal camo that a lot of people are already going to have. So I decided on maybe a dark blue camo. Unfortunately the only thing similar to that I can seem to find is solid navy. I'm wanting something more like blue tiger stripe.
That's where my second problem comes into play. Where in the world can I find that kind of camo? If anyone can give me any kind of info i would appreciate it.
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Post by Knife on Aug 31, 2010 0:55:39 GMT -5
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Post by arguablycrassic on Aug 31, 2010 1:02:28 GMT -5
Yeah and I think I might have to settle for digital urban, at least until I can find a reasonable set. I was just wondering if anyone on the forums had a good site to get this kind of thing besides BDU.com.
Likewise if I can find a kickass site for this type of thing I'll be sure to post it.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 31, 2010 9:25:38 GMT -5
Just get a navy blue flight suit, one piece simple and dark.
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Post by arguablycrassic on Aug 31, 2010 9:31:49 GMT -5
Just get a navy blue flight suit, one piece simple and dark. Yeah I thought of that but just not the night camo im going to aim for. I'm going to go with urban digi first until I can find a good blue tiger stripe kinda thing. Although I probably will get a navy set eventually.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 31, 2010 15:18:49 GMT -5
I don't think urban digital is widely used if at all, don't quote me though.
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Post by Thor on Aug 31, 2010 15:48:24 GMT -5
I don't think urban digital is widely used if at all, don't quote me though. I'm quoting you. It's not. Anything other than glow-in the dark works fine in a dark/night game. Think about it, if they've already shined a light on you, it's probably not going to matter what you're wearing. Same thing if someone happens to be using night vision. The only difference there is, you don't want to use a color that shows up brightly under an IR illuminator, such as white, or ironically, Desert Storm-era night camo. So, either go with: a solid color (black or navy blue), woodlands, or desert. For a fairly good list of different camos to choose from, see my guide: miairsoft.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=newb&action=display&thread=25344And the last thing you want to do is buy a camo that no one else has. Makes it much more of a pain in the butt when/if you do join a team, because likely you will have to go out and buy something new.
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Post by Knief on Aug 31, 2010 16:42:54 GMT -5
To expand a little more on what Thor said, any camo that works during the day will work just as well at night. Remember, the darkness of night is what provides the darkness of your camo at night. So whatever contrast you have with your surroundings during the day will also be there at night (though more subdued). And whatever contrast you are able to eliminate with your surroundings during the day will be multiplied during the night. If you're in an environment where Woodland MARPAT blends in perfectly during the day, then it's going to be the best camo at night, too. I you wear something darker, it's going to look even darker still at night. And assuming there's some light (the moon and stars, distant flood lights, flash lights or whatever), your new black camo is going to stand out against your no-so-black surroundings.
Navy blue does much better at blending in at night compared to black, but again, camo to match the surroundings would be even better. That (well, and cost) is why they don't change uniforms to do night ops in the military.
Of course, MARPAT and Multicam aren't going to do you a lot of good indoors. So if what you're looking for is a CQB camo, then navy blue is probably what you're looking for. I've been to Farmington and PT, and both have dark walls and a lot of light plywood. You're not going to be able to blend in with both, and largely it won't matter. What you're looking for is, when somebody scans a hallway and your arm is poking out, they don't notice it. Navy will do that for you better than anything with a lot of black in it. The black will stand out against the partial light and give you away. Navy, on the other hand, will help you blend in far better.
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Post by arguablycrassic on Aug 31, 2010 22:55:58 GMT -5
Wow, thanks for all the input. Especially to Knief for giving me a heads up on the kind of terrain in Farmington. As for not being a good idea to not get a certain BDU because it would be a pain in the ass to buy a whole new set, money isn't really an issue on that aspect, just time. That's the one thing I always seem to be short on.
I'm leaning more towards the navy now, both due to suggestions as well as sort of visualizing (if you will) my outfit. Thanks for all the info and tips guys.
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Post by Relarz on Sept 3, 2010 23:38:16 GMT -5
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Post by digital45 on Sept 8, 2010 15:36:35 GMT -5
Well if its Forest or Jungle Environments you are playing, and in the night time or dark, Try OD [Olive Drab], This is probably one of the most effective camo's at night time, especially when there is moonlight out, When moonlight hits Leafs for example, they look like an OD like Color, you will blend right in to the forest.
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Post by arguablycrassic on Sept 8, 2010 20:19:37 GMT -5
That's pretty much what I was looking for. I just don't understand the size chart. You can't win for losing, honestly. Got any idea?
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Post by Phantom G3 on Sept 8, 2010 20:23:52 GMT -5
True, but you need something to break up your image. That was also what a pattern does, it breaks up the outline of a human image. Leaves aren't one solid piece, they are multiple leaves that have a lot of outlines. MARPAT or CADPAT can be very effective at night (if a flashlight is shinning but not directly at you). Those camos can really help you there. But if it's just for night and there are no flashlights, as everyone else said, any camo is effective at night (but white urban).
I actually had an instance when we were playing a night game and I wanted to see how close the enemy could get to me. I was wearing MARPAT and my teammates behind me got shot. So the enemy came up to them and just chit chat wondering where they shot them and all that. He was using a flashlight and shined it right on me and didn't even seen me. He then walked straight up to my teammates and I could reach out and grab him. There was still light on me, but it was indirect light, but is still light in the dark woods.
Just thought I would share this seeming that it pertained to this thread.
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Post by arguablycrassic on Sept 8, 2010 20:31:24 GMT -5
@g3
Please tell me you scared him shitless.
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Post by Phantom G3 on Sept 8, 2010 20:35:06 GMT -5
He jumped about a foot off of the ground when I called bang I have nothing else to say.
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