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Post by aaron96 on Jul 16, 2010 11:54:32 GMT -5
I recently bought a UTG m324 master sniper. I liked the gun until it basically started to fall apart on me. I want to know any sniper suggestions that are high quality and performing but under or around 250 dollars. I also would like to know if I should bag being a sniper and just buy an aeg for the same money. Thank you so much.
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Post by Tex on Jul 16, 2010 12:08:31 GMT -5
Definitely purchase an AEG.
Unfortunately, you'll need to be willing to spend at least $500 to get something decent, $700 for something good, and about $1,000 for something amazing when it comes to spring powered bolt action rifles. But for a good, solid, AEG, $250 will go a long ways. Good luck!
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Post by aaron96 on Jul 16, 2010 12:37:23 GMT -5
thank do you have any suggestions on what to get? I defiantly want something accurate because i have a nice scope.
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Post by Koko on Jul 16, 2010 14:58:03 GMT -5
A nice m14 or m16 sounds like it could suit your tastes really well then. G&G and CA both make an m14 for right around $250 I believe.
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Post by Tex on Jul 17, 2010 11:03:34 GMT -5
The G&G M14 could be perfect for you if you still want to use a scope. I personally own one and love it. It's top of the line and comes really accurate out of the box. And for an additional $70 or so you can get the scope mount and internal upgrades you need to make it an extremely good rifle.
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Post by aaron96 on Jul 17, 2010 12:11:50 GMT -5
Thank you so much for your comments. On airsoft gi they have a SOCOM Gear r700 which they have already upgraded would that be a good gun. Also I am looking for a place to play in Mid-Michigan (lansing area).
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Post by triggs on Jul 17, 2010 12:49:47 GMT -5
The SOCOM gear R700 is a basic JG BAR-10 (TM VSR clone)
Flat out there are ZERO good out-of-the-box sniper rifles. As Big Tex stated, you're looking at $500 to get something decent, $700 for something good, and about $1,000+ for a rifle that even has a hope of outperforming a stock or near stock AEG.
For comparison: Most QUALITY (NOT JG/UTG/Warrior1/WELL) stock sniper rifles have an effective range of around 130-150ft. Basic upgrades can push this range to around 200ft. Piles of money and it can be 300ft but again that's after $1,000+.
A stock mid-range AEG (G&G/G&P/CA/etc) can have an effective range of 120-150ft with a much faster response time and follow up shot. Minor upgrades can push this range to around 190ft and of course more money can put it higher.
Basically unless you are willing to spend at least $800 on a sniper rifle, nothing will be good. A stock sniper rifle shoots 410FPS+ which means you will have a 50ft engagement limit (you must be at least 50ft from your target) to shoot from which means you have a maximum of around 70ft effective range. Any AEG shooting within armlength (under 350FPS) can easily hit you and put more rounds faster towards you as suppression.
If you haven't attended a game yet, go to one, watch the players and their equipment. The majority have AEG's of some shape, and you'll find most people with the cheap sniper rifles sitting in staging complaining or switching to their AEG's later in the day because they can't hit anything.
Team FLAK runs games from Charlotte, MI which is closer to Lansing, however the majority of games are on either coast. Check the events section for games, and their locations.
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Post by aaron96 on Jul 18, 2010 9:35:58 GMT -5
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Post by BoredKender on Jul 18, 2010 10:25:28 GMT -5
It's the exact same gun...
It is listed as using an R700 with a bunch of over-priced no-name upgrade parts.
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Post by aaron96 on Jul 18, 2010 12:18:02 GMT -5
Well is it any good?
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Post by fuzzywolly on Jul 18, 2010 15:10:48 GMT -5
Well, it has airsoft gi parts, when most people go with laylax, pdi, etc. So the parts are not the best, but they are not the worst either. Here is the thing though. Airsoft gi says "Why do it yourself when Airsoft GI can build it for you." The problem with this is that a person needs to know their own rifle. If that craps out on you (which at some point it will because with that spring in there with those airsoft gi "mediocre parts, it will wear down faster than with higher quality parts), you will have to figure out what is wrong. However, since airsoft gi put it together, you have no experience with taking that rifle apart. You decide to send it back, and they do it for you. But what if something malfunctions during a game. You need to be able to go back to the safe zone, figure it out, and go back in the game. Knowing your rifle is vital. While airsoft gi says you will save some money, it will not last as long as the other higher quality parts, which are more expensive for a reason. This makes you have to purchase some more of their parts, to handle that spring.
However, I am not saying you are incapable of taking it apart. Bolt actions are fairly easy to work with. But I would say save the money for higher quality parts if you go with a bolt action rifle. If you cannot, go with an aeg like suggested by everyone else.
Also, I know someone who put airsoft gi parts into their sniper rifle. He used a spring that put him around 550 fps. Whenever he went to pull the bolt back, it was very difficult due to the lack of not upgrading every part necessary with that spring.
Think about this too, airsoft gi skipped upgrading some vital parts such as the cylinder and cylinder head. With those stock parts from a clone in there, some bad things can happen. Not to mention, the sears will wear down relatively fast. This causes you to have to put another $100-150 into the rifle.
Overall, if you are going to go with a bolt action rifle, you cannot just buy what looks like a good deal. With that set up, parts will have to be replaced, there is no doubt, and that could cost some major cash depending what breaks. I would stick with buying an aeg of some sorts.
Hope this helps Fuzzy
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Post by BoredKender on Jul 18, 2010 19:44:47 GMT -5
Fuzzy has it right.
Another benefit to doing your own upgrades is that you get to keep your stock parts for that "oh shit!" moment when something does blow. You can slap the stock part in and at least finish off the game instead of being stuck on a bench or going home.
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Post by fuzzywolly on Jul 18, 2010 20:58:54 GMT -5
Bored Kender has a very good point. I found myself in a pickle one time. Installed the pdi hop up chamber wrong in my rifle, and luckily had the stock hopup and barrel on hand, and was able to play in the day's game. Even though I have everything working now, I have the stock parts just in case
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Post by aaron96 on Jul 18, 2010 23:29:12 GMT -5
Thank you so much for all of the help and basically telling me that airsoft sniping (actually airsoft in general) burns a hole in your wallet. Second I wanted to know what upgrades I should have for a G&G M14. I want to be able to use it in games (So at 400 fps) and it to have a good range of about 150-200 ft or longer. I also want to know if I should buy a cqb gun as a backup since all i have is a crummy mp7 (the electric one). Since this is a spring gun section I am posting this comment (without the thanks) also in the aeg section.
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Post by fuzzywolly on Jul 19, 2010 8:37:12 GMT -5
With your price range, I do not think buying a cqb weapon will be all that good. In my opinion, buy the m14, put your money into that, and if you really want to have a sidearm, save up for a gbb. That way its small and its not too cumbersome on the field. After all you already will have to handle a relatively large weapon
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