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Post by Minky on Nov 18, 2002 15:58:00 GMT -5
Just got my KSC M9 in today... Great gun! From my limited experience with the TM M9 series, I would say this gun wins out as my favorite M9 thus far. Very heavy, no seam lines at all, excellent fit/finish, functional decocker... The only "bad" things are the lack of authentic trademarks (which didn't stop UNCompany from using putty anyway, I have nothing else to say), and a somewhat weak blowback kick. It's pretty cold in my house right now though, and for the couple of mags I warmed up, the kick improved some. It's not bad by any means, just not as sharp of a kick as something like a Western Arms SVI. I plan to do a review of the gun this week and will try to get some nice pics to go along with it.
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Post by Andy on Nov 19, 2002 11:35:30 GMT -5
Trademarks don't matter to me that much. But I like a good blow back! Nothing to wimpy
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Post by Hadoken on Nov 19, 2002 11:48:19 GMT -5
Minky, if I remember correctly my old KSC Beretta Elite had some sort of "real life short recoil" feature which might explain the weaker kick. I'm guessing in the real pistol it would allow for easier follow up shots, but in the airsoft world it doesn't really matter as blowback isn't all too powerful. Still...if KSC chose to add that feature to thier Beretta lineup it might be the reason behind the weaker kick. Also, not sure which gas you're using, but Green Gas with my Elite did make for a much more pleasurable shooting experience. Now, get some pics posted. *whip*
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Post by Minky on Nov 19, 2002 13:00:23 GMT -5
I was using green gas. After shooting it some more today, I'm gonna have to revise my statement about the blowback being weak. I'd call it average now, hehe. I think it was the cooler temps effecting me yesterday, since it's a little warmer today and the gun seem to be performing better. One other thing I've noticed, this gun is really accurate! From around 20 feet I've been able to shoot through the same BB hole a couple of times. I'll be sure to get some bench-rested accuracy testing done for my review.
Another thing I forgot to mention that puts this over the TM M9s in my eyes: adjustable hop-up. The TM M9s all have fixed hop-up, but the KSC is adjustable via a rotating ring around the barrel, like on their Glock series. Right now I've got it set for .23s, and it's shooting great.
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Post by Motown on Nov 19, 2002 15:04:42 GMT -5
I've used the KSC M9 Elite at White Thunder (go dan..) after by battery ran out. Perfomed great, real accurate, light, and it seemed to have quite a gas reservoir. The only thing I saw as a potential problem, once when we were under fire, I must've hit the mag release, and spent a good 20 minutes in the dark trying to find it.
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Post by Andy on Nov 19, 2002 19:28:31 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of the Elite! I think it will br my next gas gun.
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Post by Solid Snake 00 on Nov 19, 2002 21:15:52 GMT -5
TRADES ARE IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Atleast to me... I mean why get a beautifull SOCOM, USP or any type of guns like that, that have a lot of trades, have putty all over them?!?!?!?! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Andy on Nov 19, 2002 21:47:21 GMT -5
On topic, Is the Elite accurate at a far range? Thats one of the things I want most in a gas gun.
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Post by Knief on Nov 19, 2002 21:49:57 GMT -5
i'm betting yes, Andy.
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Post by Solid Snake 00 on Nov 19, 2002 21:51:06 GMT -5
It is mostly accurate. Matters how you use the gun. If your Solid Snake you could get 8.5/10 accuracy. Pretty good.
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Post by Andy on Nov 19, 2002 21:54:52 GMT -5
jdl_9th your so fast to jump on me. I was talking about the Elite.
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Post by Knief on Nov 19, 2002 21:59:24 GMT -5
It's the same book in a different cover, just like the TM m9 and the tac master.
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Post by Minky on Nov 19, 2002 23:43:58 GMT -5
Andy, as Jeff said, the KSC M9 elite should perform pretty much the same as the M9. As far as I know, the internals are very similar, if not exactly the same. I'm not sure what the weight is for the Elite, but I believe it's lighter than the M9 heavyweight, so that might be something to consider. If you like the looks though, go for the Elite! One common problem with the Elites though is the rear sight coming loose during firing, since it's not molded to the slide. A small dab of glue under the sight should help prevent this. No worries about lost sights on the M9 though, as they're molded onto the slide, hehe. Also, I'll try to get some outdoor accuracy testing done tomorrow. I think it's supposed to be a pretty nice day again, so I should be able to get OK performance. *edit* What distances are you thinking when you mention "far range" Andy? Since in airsoft most people carry sidearms for a last ditch, or when they get too close for AEG use, I consider 30 or so feet a good range for a pistol to be accurate over. We all love to talk about how accurate our guns are and how far they shoot though, I have nothing else to say, so I'll have to see what kind of max range I can get with my M9.
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Post by Andy on Nov 26, 2002 12:44:39 GMT -5
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Post by Minky on Nov 26, 2002 19:42:07 GMT -5
Yeah, that's WA's own website, so I doubt they'd say anything bad about the gun. Also, it's not an Elite per se, but it is their model of the new Beretta Vertec. The difference between this gun and an Elite are the straight grips, new grip panels, and redesigned frame with integral accessory rails. KSC also makes a model of this gun BTW.
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