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Post by GrinchBiscuit on Aug 21, 2009 21:08:37 GMT -5
ACU has been issue kit for 18 years? Simply put, there needs to be one or two universal cammie patterns across the whole board. Multicam would fit the bill nicely, but it will never happen. Too much bureaucracy and branch rivalry.
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Post by crazyrabbit on Aug 21, 2009 21:49:55 GMT -5
Yea the Army Times said that they wanted to issue 40,000 troops multicam doing to Afghanistan by the end of 2009. Also I heard from a ranger from 2nd battalion charlie company that they will be issued multicam on there next deployment which is very soon.
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Post by soviettaco on Aug 24, 2009 23:21:44 GMT -5
See I speak the truth!!!!! ;D
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Post by Great Troub of Troubistan on Aug 25, 2009 13:07:39 GMT -5
Yea the Army Times said that they wanted to issue 40,000 troops multicam doing to Afghanistan by the end of 2009. Also I heard from a ranger from 2nd battalion charlie company that they will be issued multicam on there next deployment which is very soon. Yeah, but I've heard people boast that they heard from a guy that they are getting multicam on their deployment for the longest time. Yet the only pictures I've seen are either ODA's or from when they were testing it back in 2005.
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Post by GrinchBiscuit on Aug 25, 2009 13:59:30 GMT -5
I've also heard from two separate sources that digital woodlands/deserts were in the works.
Since Congress told the DoD to shit out another uniform I'm sure the highest echelons of the Army are just as confused as civilians are.
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Post by easy1 on Aug 26, 2009 20:09:22 GMT -5
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Post by Knife on Aug 26, 2009 20:26:51 GMT -5
Doesn't look bad, I believe the pants are made by Massif, kneepads from Crye Precision. It will be interesting to see if that design carries over to whatever new pattern is chosen.
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Post by easy1 on Aug 27, 2009 9:23:33 GMT -5
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Post by Ghast on Aug 27, 2009 12:43:23 GMT -5
I dunno, it looks too much like real-tree for what (I assume) the Army would want.
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Post by Zorak on Aug 27, 2009 13:26:14 GMT -5
If they do a new procurement process, it won't be a matter of the Army looking into companies, it will be a question of who submits candidates. If I recall correctly, Crye didn't follow the proper protocol last time the Army was taking bids, which contributed to ACU beating out Multicam.
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Post by kustom on Aug 28, 2009 1:23:07 GMT -5
Hopefully, averything based on the ACUPat tubes.
ACU has equalled fail since it came out, unless you're fighting on an old couch. ACU makes our military look fearsome out of the dact that we dare not hide while loking like a gravel road, hence we must be BA of the highest order.
I really want to ask any Army trooper if he believes in his camo, or if he thinks it will help him get shot at the tip of the spear.
But I love our men and women in the service too much to put that out there in person, instead of a hazy conjecture on the intarwebz.
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Post by Optimus Composite on Aug 28, 2009 8:41:58 GMT -5
Kustom - have you ever worn ACU? Granted that I've only used it for Airsoft and never any real combat situation, but I've still found my ACUs to be quite effective in most terrain. The only place it doesn't work so well is in dense woodland, as it's too light to blend in effectively. Other than that, I've found it to work surprisingly well.
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Post by Thor on Aug 28, 2009 8:53:52 GMT -5
ACU does have places where it works. They are locations like:
Western/modern urban areas Mountainous areas gravely areas ugly ass couches
It's not the best camo out there, but it's not the worst. And other than when in the mountains and valleys of Afghanistan, blending in is actually not as big an issue as maintaining uniformity for target identification and acquisition.
For example, in street level fighting in Iraq, you can't honestly tell me that whether or not they blend in is more important than moving quickly and staying together.
And even though it may not blend with it's surroundings, ACU is a subdued enough camo that unless it's up against a backdrop that is radically different like black or neon pink it doesn't jump out at you.
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Post by Knife on Sept 15, 2009 19:24:41 GMT -5
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Post by GrinchBiscuit on Sept 15, 2009 19:50:10 GMT -5
Looks like digitized puke... but if it works...
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