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Post by Ghast on Feb 19, 2009 18:19:34 GMT -5
Thats not true! Oakey simply shoots babies, and Gskits eats them.
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Post by Thor on Feb 20, 2009 16:06:52 GMT -5
Thats not true! Oakey simply shoots babies, and Gskits eats them. Gbiz only eats aborted fetuses, therefore, they are not babies.
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Post by redknight on Feb 23, 2009 3:33:54 GMT -5
Very few people here have the full story of OpDoc, myself included. Tex will know, if you want to PM him. The gist of it, however, is that he hosted events and charged an entrance fee. That entrance fee, he claimed, was going partly toward insurance and partly toward the Wounded Warrior Foundation. As it turns out, none of the money went toward anything but his pocket. So really, he claimed to have field insurance and didn't (which is a big no-no, you can not have field insurance, but you need to let people know), and he stole from the WWF. He doesn't get to be a part of our community anymore after that. Holy hell thats fraud and it is most would likely constitute a felony. He faked his military service record too? thats a felony too... jesus, banned? He should be imprisoned. Did any one drop a dime on him to the WWF people or VA or VFW? They would go after him! That is seriously an issue that should be processed by the proper authority with legal jurisdiction.
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Post by King on Feb 23, 2009 3:37:16 GMT -5
What Knief is referring to is how Op Doc would tell people he would donate the money from games he hosted to the WWF. He would just keep it for himself.
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Post by redknight on Feb 23, 2009 4:16:00 GMT -5
oh ok, I thought he was the guy faking military service (my mistake), but thats still fraud (you expect to have insurance coverage and pay more money to have it, then he does not provide the service promised) it is quite possibly moot at this point, but in the future, it may do well to have an attourney (possibly on that is a player) set up all the legal stuff, especially if there is going to be charity work. On the note of defrauding the WWF...thats just crap-tacular, and yes, thats a serious crime.
I myself am planning an event with money going to a charity and would fully expect to be required to prove charity group affiliation prior to accepting funds in their name.
In any case, it seems to me that a little legal assistance/advice might not be a bad idea with all of the issues presented on this thread regarding safety, criminal acts/conduct, or any other concerns. Making things legally binding only gives you more strength when you have to put your foot down about an issue.
We have firefighters, police,plumbers, electricians, carpenters, soldiers, even doctors on here, we must have atleast one damn lawyer!
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Post by bigc on Mar 1, 2009 12:11:27 GMT -5
This is not a thread to crap on Op Doc, let's keep this thread on topic.
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Post by Shadow (314) on Mar 2, 2009 16:52:00 GMT -5
I would like to bring up a point. If you were to make this list available by password like a team forum, like some people have suggested, a person looking at the last 15 posts made can still read posts in areas they do not have access to. I always found this to be a flaw in this forum system.
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Post by redknight on Mar 4, 2009 2:18:43 GMT -5
Good point Shadow, I guess there is no perfect way to set it up on a forum like this. Perhaps they could use an entirely different webpage.
p.s. Sorry BigC, I wasn't trying to crap on the guy or get off topic, I was just making an observation, it was the first time I heard the story.
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Post by Scarface on Mar 7, 2009 18:49:55 GMT -5
The idea of a state-wide ban list is a good idea, but leaves too many generalities. Meaning what requirements would have to be met for a player to get on said list? How many fields do they need to be kicked off of to get on said list? Who decides how many fields and how many requirements must be met for the player to get on said list?
Obviously the questions are endless and as said before a forum inside MIA that is locked to the public is going to create a lot of gossip about who is on it. And more importantly why they are on it.
As far as who owns the right to kick people off their fields, I support that field owners or the event holders should have sole power to decide if someone must leave.
As for a solution: I suppose any event holder could look at upcoming events put on by other event holders and glance at the player roster. Meaning if event holder "A" had a problem with a player that is on event holder "B"'s roster for an upcoming event then it is not ludacris to suggest that the event holder "A" give a heads up to event holder "B" via PM. Of course you have to consider the probability that not every event holder is going to look at every upcoming event. But at least this way it is handled discreetly and would cut down odds of players not well liked by event holders making it out to a ton of events.
Of course my proposition has flaws too every single idea will but I think a formal statewide-ban list is to farfetched for this community.
Regards, Scar
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Post by Corporal Bogger on Mar 7, 2009 21:44:19 GMT -5
im totally down for this. theres just some players that need to take a break and realize that they cant do whatever they want. so yea thats stright.
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Post by bigc on Mar 8, 2009 9:26:25 GMT -5
Brickman, please go read our rules and stickies. You will find we require punctuation and sentence structure.
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Post by BoredKender on Mar 9, 2009 13:59:37 GMT -5
I was speaking crap? I must have missed it...
And how could I have been "One of you" if it's not the same group? I never played as WMiA (nor as Lakeshore for that matter).
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Post by BoredKender on Mar 9, 2009 14:41:52 GMT -5
PM sent to get the thread here back on track and keep on track.
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Post by Knief on Mar 9, 2009 14:56:06 GMT -5
Dude, Kender just said stay on topic. Congratulations, you get a warning.
So from here on out, let's not see the words "lakeshore" or "WMiA" show up in this thread again, k? I will be handing out bans to people who continue the off topic discussion.
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Post by pxranger on Mar 10, 2009 12:47:12 GMT -5
Above simply listing players that put others in harm MIA could outline a "rehab" program such as the seminars held to better acquaint new players to MILSIM events, or the training RedKnight has shown an interest in hosting. When dangerous players are brought up, how many are dangerous because they haven't been properly educated. Being an old man, and totally new to this sport, the last thing I want to do is get banned from a field because I wasn't trained in safety. Some sort of training program that could be hosted at all fields, at least once a month for the SERIOUS beginners could probably cut down on half of your Gomer Pile problems. I'm new and I'm not fond of the idea of showing up to some event, or even a rec game, and asking somebody "Please sir,will you teach me something?". Let alone injuring myself or another, due to my newbishness. There is a difference between reading about safety on a forum, and being taught safety by experienced players. Something like Baisic Training, maybe? I would vote yes on a ban on the purposeful dangerous players.
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