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Post by Ghast on Jan 25, 2009 3:11:26 GMT -5
You can bet your ass if we catch that shit at a Hellfish game your ass will be out in the cold faster than you can blink.
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Post by redknight on Jan 25, 2009 3:15:32 GMT -5
don't forget the stories he was telling about people after they left.....Slugg called me and told me that Chris was spreading some rumors and getting the owner of the place pissed.....I think I'm the product of two siblings sleeping together.. doy! if its true but I have to mention it on general principle..... It was brought to my attention that I may be unwelcome because of my profession. I personally don't carry bias against anyone, but I understand and respect a person's right to have their own opinion and if the Fighting Tacos don't want my colleagues at their events, we certainly won't press the issue or be offended by it. After all, it is only a friggin game. Personally, I think that if it IS true that he was spreading all kinds of stories about the guys from ZombieSquad, he should post a written apology on the forums or be banned for life if he doesn't... For the record, the HELLFISH have a reputation for being very well refereed, so I am not worried about that happening at their events. They have done a very good job at the one event that I did attend.  I also don't think that the fighting tacos should be held accountable for the misdeeds of one or two of their members, Mopedman did a damn good job representing his team favorably and running the event, even though he was short handed and was basically the only one reffing cuz slugg was so new to it. ;D |
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Post by tupopoflungo (Tooth) on Jan 25, 2009 6:02:33 GMT -5
No one was thrown into a wall. For the record. What happened was someone stuck their gun around a corner, and told one of my teamates to "Call it" knowing the guy, I know that he will never simply call it no matter how close you get with any gun, shoot the guy, he doesnt mind. What he did was grab the barrel of the gun, push the business end away from him, and in the process the front sight got broken off.
Now, I realize that by trying to get someone to "call it" or "Surrender" is just trying to be nice and not shooting them at point blank range, however, we are all out there intending to be shot at some point, so I personally do not think that my teamates reaction was unreasonable.
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Post by Hunter on Jan 25, 2009 6:30:34 GMT -5
Well we are out there to have fun. People dont like getting shot, thats why you have "Call it". If someone gives you a choice to not get shot you should take it. Using another players gun as a advantage to win is against rules. We dont grab other players guns because its to much like hand on hand combat. If he wanted to go against the "Call it" from the other guy he should have knife killed him or shot him.
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Post by mopedman (Fighting Tacos) on Jan 25, 2009 8:37:43 GMT -5
don't forget the stories he was telling about people after they left.....Slugg called me and told me that Chris was spreading some rumors and getting the owner of the place pissed.....I think I'm the product of two siblings sleeping together.. doy! if its true but I have to mention it on general principle..... It was brought to my attention that I may be unwelcome because of my profession. I personally don't carry bias against anyone, but I understand and respect a person's right to have their own opinion and if the Fighting Tacos don't want my colleagues at their events, we certainly won't press the issue or be offended by it. After all, it is only a friggin game. Personally, I think that if it IS true that he was spreading all kinds of stories about the guys from ZombieSquad, he should post a written apology on the forums or be banned for life if he doesn't... OK First of all we never said we didn't want you there. The only problem we had was the fact that you brought a Real Steel gun into an airsoft event. Second Chris wasn't spreading rumors about any one after you left. ZombieSquad will always be welcome at are events because they are kinda like a rival team to us. Just because one of there members was on are team. Also because before they were a team a few of them played at are field and we got into a little confrontation. As far as the front sight thing go's, I offered to pay for the sight. The kid told me not to worry about it. |
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Post by Gestapo on Jan 25, 2009 12:11:13 GMT -5
No one was thrown into a wall. For the record. What happened was someone stuck their gun around a corner, and told one of my teamates to "Call it" knowing the guy, I know that he will never simply call it no matter how close you get with any gun, shoot the guy, he doesnt mind. What he did was grab the barrel of the gun, push the business end away from him, and in the process the front sight got broken off. Now, I realize that by trying to get someone to "call it" or "Surrender" is just trying to be nice and not shooting them at point blank range, however, we are all out there intending to be shot at some point, so I personally do not think that my teamates reaction was unreasonable. He broke his gun.... and the bang kill system is there for safety. Apparently his reason for why he did it is "If this was real life you'd be against the wall with a knife in you." You can bet your ass if this guy is at an event I go to, I'm getting my money back and going home. It's these kind of people that make airsoft not fun. |
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Post by Renegade on Jan 25, 2009 15:16:09 GMT -5
He broke his gun.... and the bang kill system is there for safety. Apparently his reason for why he did it is "If this was real life you'd be against the wall with a knife in you." That's complete bullshit, if someone ever forcefully grabbed my gun out of 'realism's sake,' then they would enjoy the realism of getting pistol whipped with a Desert Eagle. That really reflects poorly on the event organizers and MiA as a whole if someone is allowed to get away with that without any consequences... |
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Post by cqbr on Jan 25, 2009 15:27:48 GMT -5
don't forget the stories he was telling about people after they left.....Slugg called me and told me that Chris was spreading some rumors and getting the owner of the place pissed.....I think I'm the product of two siblings sleeping together.. doy! if its true but I have to mention it on general principle..... It was brought to my attention that I may be unwelcome because of my profession. I personally don't carry bias against anyone, but I understand and respect a person's right to have their own opinion and if the Fighting Tacos don't want my colleagues at their events, we certainly won't press the issue or be offended by it. After all, it is only a friggin game. Personally, I think that if it IS true that he was spreading all kinds of stories about the guys from ZombieSquad, he should post a written apology on the forums or be banned for life if he doesn't... OK First of all we never said we didn't want you there. The only problem we had was the fact that you brought a Real Steel gun into an airsoft event. I understand that your a cop or what ever, but it still bugged people. Mopedman, Someone actually brought a real gun with live ammo to an airsoft game? WOW!! Complete idiot Cool Pics though |
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Post by Hunter on Jan 25, 2009 16:10:05 GMT -5
Dont blame it on me...There team rented the place from me. If I would have seen it, there would have been consequences.
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Post by kajunkerspunk on Jan 25, 2009 17:34:47 GMT -5
- I would suggest additionally that anyone performing the function of referee should not be armed or dressed as if they are a viable target, and when walking should remain as close to the walls as possible to avoid accidental shooting incidents or obstructing a shooters line of sight to a valid target. - I would suggest that anyone who is performing duties as a referee should refrain from participating in the live-fire exercise so that they can better concentrate on performing their primary function more important than enforcing fair play, which is enforcing safe play such as making certain all players guns are chronographed and making certain that all players have eye/face protection in place. I would recommend that all guns are fitted with a dated sticker or tag denoting the fps speed at which they register and the time and date when the check was performed. The reason refs are armed is because I refed at the first friday game and if Someone kept shootings after I called field ref I'd shoot back. And the reason refs are wareing gear is at times a Ref may need to fill a spot on a team and it saves time if they are all set and don't need to change clothes. And if a ref is blocking your view tell them to move it's as easy as that. If a ref is walking down the middle of a hall they deserve to get hit. If you are a ref expect to get hit. If you think you won't then your mistaken, cause not many people can instantly seperate pedstrian from enemy. Not everyone is trained like the SWAT teams. If someone is new to refing give them some slack. Tell them what they are doing wrong and what they might want to look for. Don't be scrared to tell them they are doing wrong, they don't bite. (unless they arent new at refing. Then they will probably get pissed at you) |
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Post by mopedman (Fighting Tacos) on Jan 25, 2009 20:06:43 GMT -5
That really reflects poorly on the event organizers and MiA as a whole if someone is allowed to get away with that without any consequences... "Chris" the guy who pushed the gun out the way, offered to pay for it and so did I. He was warned and told to just take the hit next time. Also he has had some consequences through our team. Hunter had nothing to do with it. Like he said he rented the place to me. I was responsible. I told the kid we were sorry, offered to pay for it and offered to let him use a gun for the rest of the day. I didn't know what else to do. |
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Post by Renegade on Jan 25, 2009 20:28:48 GMT -5
That really reflects poorly on the event organizers and MiA as a whole if someone is allowed to get away with that without any consequences... "Chris" the guy who pushed the gun out the way, offered to pay for it and so did I. He was warned and told to just take the hit next time. Also he has had some consequences through our team. Hunter had nothing to do with it. Like he said he rented the place to me. I was responsible. I told the kid we were sorry, offered to pay for it and offered to let him use a gun for the rest of the day. I didn't know what else to do. I'm not sure why you felt that was directed at you, Hunter, I thought it was understood that the host team, 'The Fighting Tacos,' were the event organizers. I wasn't there, so obviously I don't know all the details, but I just made that comment because I hope steps were made to make sure that doesn't happen again. And reading this thread up to that point, it seemed that some people were still somewhat upset about what had happened. It appeared that the guy just got away with it. I trust that you did what you said, mopedman, and hopefully there won't be an issue like this again. |
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Post by mopedman (Fighting Tacos) on Jan 25, 2009 20:48:54 GMT -5
I feel bad. I wish the kid would have let me buy him a new front sight.
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Post by Renegade on Jan 25, 2009 20:59:35 GMT -5
Well, I didn't mean to guilt trip you, I just hoped that the situation was given the attention it requires, and it seems that it has. You can't keep watch on the entire field at all times, individual players should be trustworthy enough to follow the rules on their own.
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Post by mopedman (Fighting Tacos) on Jan 25, 2009 21:03:17 GMT -5
It was the first game I have ever been a ref at, Slug and hunter helped ref. We could have used 1 more ref though. The problem has been addressed with in the team. Next game we are going to make sure it gets addressed before the game starts.
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I also don't think that the fighting tacos should be held accountable for the misdeeds of one or two of their members, Mopedman did a damn good job representing his team favorably and running the event, even though he was short handed and was basically the only one reffing cuz slugg was so new to it. ;D
