Operation: Flash Fire II - October 13 - 14, 2007

[Chaseman]

I have to say that Livinoia is right about the hop-ups and the wind caused a bit of the face shots too. Aiming for center mass and the wind or hopup, I belive caused a lot of the hit's to the face. But I also think some might have been aiming for head shots too. I caught one from Livionia, My first hit of the day, caught me right between the hat and the eye protection. It was a good shot. No harm, no foul, no mark on my face it was a skipper shot.

Hey Blindshot! Look pretty badass in some of those Pic's bro.. Btw Mosin sorry for not calling that one hit. But I really did think it was a ricochet, because I didn't think anybody was on the paint ball hill shooting down on us. We were told that we couldn't go up there that area was outta bounds. So we thought the shots were coming from the city and they couldn't hit us from there we were below the sight line and bb's were bouncing off the trees and dropping on us. So Mosin, you can count one more kill to your list.

[Quarter]

livoniairsoft said:

I was keeping a lookout for poor eye protection, and it seems like ski goggles were the worst.

There was one guy with an AK-47 that only had shooting glasses.

[Mosin]

No worries Chaseman, Canto said I couldn't go there either but it was ok for his own team mates to do so, he told me it tapered outword towards that ridge, I was only 3-4 feet off from the flat ground, so I didn't really think I was out of bounds. But yeah, no worries

[O'Dwah]

Oakey, if you would of told me you had an M16A4 I would have stayed around longer to fondle the hell out of it.

It's a nice gun, but it was actually my buddies, he let me use it for the weekend. I was getting kills from about 50 yards out, so that made me happy, but if I have it with me at the next Op I'll definitely let you see it.

[spooledwhat]

well almost two days later and the shots i took from 30 ft. in,still break loose and bleed. and im damn proud of them. Livonia's rifle really did work on me. thank you. now you if you didnt know what would happen if you shot sombody from that range, now you know. any time.
It was only my second time really playing airsoft so yeah. it was a great time. i can tell i still have a lot to learn, and sorry about the "paintball fingers" Guys. and i will be working on getting proper equipment to play.

[O'Dwah]

Hey man don't worry about the way you fire your rifle, as long as you have a good time and make some new friends, that's all that matters.

[Optimus Composite]

Overall, I had a great time despite some of the problems with the field/games/whatever. I agree, the village could use a little re-working, but I wouldn't hesitate to come back down. Thanks Canto!

[Otter]

Finally gonna say something!
I had a great time. Glad I got to run with RAGE the whole weekend; those guys are intense.
That field is a lot of fun, but the amount of paintballer shenanigans took away the good vibes we had going.
The only thing I regret is not trying to park my car in the giant tent Oakey/Echo/lanky freak brought.

[Quarter]

If anyone picked up a Glock AEP in the speedball course, send me a PM.

[The Jack]

Firstly tex, I respect you cuz you're a good player and all, but that is really out of line. I completely and fully understand where you are coming from but you really don't need to be talking about this online in front of everyone when you could've just talked to John face-to-face about it (even though you probably and actually did), or on the phone. But bitching about it openly in front of everyone is pretty imature. I would actually call you and say this instead of online but I don't have your number.
About the paintballs, I think we have all heard our fair share about what happened in the parking lot. If I recall, you even said ohwell to your car getting hit. John actually left a game and went up to investigate the whole thing when you just continued to play. When John went up there, he talked to Glen and several of the paintballers and ref's for the games in private about the incident. Glen said that he would take care of it but had neither the time nor resources to act upon it at the specific moment. That's why we were all told that it would be taken care of. And one more small thing about that, several others and I took the liberty of wiping the paint off of the affected cars that were up there. So I'd kind of like a thank-you for that. Noone was reprimanded or punished because we couldn't pin the incident on one group or singular person(s).
About the field, yes it filled with holes and shit. What the hell do you expect from a dry lakebed that's litterally two and a half feet above the water table. I mean yeah sure we DO try to fill and mark off what holes we can but they just reappear after each rain (light or heavy). Let me start naming off trip hazards, trees, logs, any foreign object with sufficient space underneath it for a foot to get caught under. Hmmm, I think there's a lot there. That big 2.5 ft. hole in the city has had numerous attempts at filling it but it keeps sinking in. In short there's not a whole lot about it we can do. SO, we put a few sticks around it. In regards to the field not being utilized properly, there's not a whole lot of time that many of us can make it out to build or make renovations or repairs, so please don't get on us about that. And about the building, of course they're made of 2x4's and tree branches, we're not exactly the richest people in town so we pretty much build with what we can get our hands on. And personally, I never really hear to many complaints about the integrity of the structures from anyone. If it really meant all that much to you, I would think that you would've said something about it during break time or somthing.
The disorganization isn't all to be blamed on John (not saying that you are blaming it on John), I do recall that Doc was the US comander so he kind of had a big part in organization to, and you being his right-hand man probably could've stepped in to.
About "John" deleting everyone's posts, it was not him. The account was hacked and tampered with. I know this because he didn't leave Bangor until about 5 or 6 PM, and the posts were deleted before that time, and everyone knows that bangor is one huge dead zone for internet and any network based electronic utility. So don't blame John for everything that happened.
Your last little comment there Tex was pretty uncalled for and immature, speaking of maturity. +1 To You for maturity. You sound like a little kid.

[The Jack]

kom said:

Looks like the eye pro rules were a little lax. The one guy with the M16A2 looks like hes in field and no eye pro to be seen.

Oakey, if you would of told me you had an M16A4 I would have stayed aroud longer to fondle the hell out of it.

Oh, and this picture hurts my feelings. Someone tell me, whats wrong with this?



Its cool that he converted (Im guessing) but, still, it hurts me.

Judge- he wasn't in the field at that moment, he was in the immediate staging(safe) zone and had a buffer of about 10 ft. And his goggles are in his hand.

[The Jack]

operatordoc01 said:

Well here is my post on the event. I do not expect to have my post deleted if so I will just repost it. Here are the Pros/Cons of Operation Flash Fire 2

Pro:

1. I got to hang out with Team RAGE and a lot of other cool players that I have played with before.

2. Camp Fire chats with Livona and others was fun as well.

3. Thank you to CJ for the items and you know what I am talking about.

4. Being one of the medics and getting around 50 medic heals and around 10 kills with the p99 it was great.

Cons:

1. Players not calling hits, which happens in every event and rec game.

2. Unsafe field structures. I myself almost got stabbed in the shoulder by a nail, rustly one at that.

3. Large. deep, unmakred holes in the villiage. I watched Mavericks friend fall in that whole and break his AEG, Not cool at all.

4. Paintballers shooting at cars. This was a very big issue at the first FF that I was told was going to be taken care of, and it was not even mentioned, as there was nothing done to prevent this from happening again, as the field owner was made aware of this the first time it happened.

5. "Mine Fields", where very unsafe. These where nothing more than major trip hazzards. Along withe nails sticking out of them as well. Not a good idea.

6. Under age drinking, as far as i am concerned this is a big no no. This is a good way to get a lot of bad press for airsoft and see a lot of players and event organizers in a lot of trouble. Lets not have this happen again.

7. The unsafe shooting of people at night around the campfire. I was almost hit on 2 separate occassion's within a 5min time frame. One person acrossed from me almost got it in the face from this. I will not name the shooter as you know who you are.

This is the list of the Pros/Cons of this op. I myself will not be returning to this field untill several unsafe practices are changed on this field. With saying this, I will need to see the prof of these changes before I come to anymore events held at this field.

OpDoc

Doc- I respect your observations and will be glad to say that the entire event runner goup is open for improvement.
con 2- You probably should've mentioned this to John when you noticed it.
con 3- Current meassurments put the hole at precisely 13 inches and 3 millimeters, so it's kinda klutzy to fall and break your gun in that.
con 4- FF one is a year old and that gives the OLD owners of hole in the wall a while to forget not including that they have a LOT more things on their mind than that. It will get our full attention now though.
con 5- Like I said to Caleb, those were several in a million little "trip hazards" so let it go.
con 6- no comment, I tried to sleep through the damn night.
con 7- you were all drunk and very LOUD, I had a hell of a time trying to get to sleep, in fact it sounded like you were approving the shooting. In fact that is what you were doing.

[O'Dwah]

Wrong picture?

Anyways, I understand where you are coming from DrDeath, but in all honesty Doc, along with the rest of Team RAGE tried their best with the organization of the games. Baring the first two games, pretty much the rest were run by Team RAGE, along with SkyPilot, Canto also helped moderate them. I wouldn't put all the blame on John, as he tried his best with the limited personnel he had, also the lack of player participation played a large role in the game play.

I was pretty harsh in my first post, I was wet and mad about mostly the rain, basically it was the straw that broke the camels back. I can't say I didn't have fun, but it wasn't the best event I have been to.

Also, I can attest to the fact that Doc was furious about the shooting of the people around the fire. He even stated that he had, had enough of it and was going to take actions in to his own hands if it happened again.

Not everyone was Drunk, only a few people. Actually there where probably more people sober than drunk.

The shooting of the two people with Livonia's rifle was voluntary on all parts, and both players had proper eye protection on.

[Mosin]

drdeath01 said:

And one more small thing about that, several others and I took the liberty of wiping the paint off of the affected cars that were up there. So I'd kind of like a thank-you for that.

Ok, I'm going to have to dissagree with this one, I'm not sure if you even wiped one car down, but I recall when Doc's car got a good spray and Blindshot got a direct hit no one cleaned their cars, or when Tex got hit with spray no one cleaned his, he doesn't sound like a kid in bringing this out. John brought it upon himself to ask Tex what the problems were and other things so he did such.

[The Jack]

Yeah I know it was the wrong picture.
And thank-you for sharing you point of view on the game management, I appreciate it very much. I'm not trying to put all the blame on John though. I do agree fully with you about the player participation part, it did have a huge affect on the game play.
Truthfully, it was pretty hard to tell who was drunk and who wasn't cuz like I said, I was trying to sleep, not pay attention to who was drunk and who wasn't. The last thing I heard from doc though was something about supporting the shooting of other people.
I have a lot of respect for the two brave players who voluntarily got blasted by livonia's rifle. They must've been drunk or brave to do that.
It was a lot of fun seeing you back in action with airsoft after your exile though. Glad to have you back.