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Post by Chaffin on Jun 25, 2010 17:27:09 GMT -5
Easter egg grenades are purely eggs with bb's and a firecracker in them correct? Edit: is it half or whole egg, and how big of fire cracker?
Also, is there some type of auto lighter in it, or do you carry a lighter with you?
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Post by Kiki on Jun 25, 2010 18:05:58 GMT -5
Easter egg grenades are purely eggs with bb's and a firecracker in them correct? Edit: is it half or whole egg, and how big of fire cracker? Also, is there some type of auto lighter in it, or do you carry a lighter with you? They were just those plastic easter eggs with bb's and a firecracker in them with the fuse sticking out. You had to carry a lighter around to light them, but they were pretty damn cool.
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Post by Agouti on Jun 26, 2010 23:16:31 GMT -5
I'd be highly interested in that. What are the materials used? What kind of bbs and firecrackers and fuse? I imagine .12 could be nice due to the increased speed and reduced cost.
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Post by Relarz on Jun 26, 2010 23:21:57 GMT -5
The pea-frags are a plastic sphere of similar feel to the easter eggshells. They have a cold pull-pin type fuse, or a version where the top cap over the fuse has what is similar to strike paper for matches on it that you flip over and strike your fuse to start (which I was told was the more reliable version, as the pull pin has the tendency to dud-out).
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Post by Agouti on Jun 26, 2010 23:46:09 GMT -5
So what powers them, what model of fire cracker?
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Post by Kiki on Jun 28, 2010 10:57:37 GMT -5
So what powers them, what model of fire cracker? At this point, just go and buy some firecrackers yourself and see what works. If it's true that some fireworks are now legal in MI, then you can go and buy what you can here and try them.
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Post by a1 (Babez) on Jun 28, 2010 12:56:12 GMT -5
I'd be highly interested in that. What are the materials used? What kind of bbs and firecrackers and fuse? I imagine .12 could be nice due to the increased speed and reduced cost. Why waste .12's when you could use Corn kernels? Bio-friendly, cheaper, and are relatively the same size + weight.
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Post by Dev on Jun 28, 2010 14:55:37 GMT -5
I'd be highly interested in that. What are the materials used? What kind of bbs and firecrackers and fuse? I imagine .12 could be nice due to the increased speed and reduced cost. Why waste .12's when you could use Corn kernels? Bio-friendly, cheaper, and are relatively the same size + weight. Waste .12's pahahaha, i don't think you CAN waste 12's since you shouldn't be using them in the first place. ;D
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Post by a1 (Babez) on Jun 28, 2010 16:04:45 GMT -5
Good point, but you could save money by not buying them too.
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Post by Cabbage on Jul 2, 2010 22:41:52 GMT -5
Honestly, the whole Easter egg thing is generally better for a cqb setting and not an all-purpose grenade. I've made and tested a few of these and done some experimenting and your typical firecracker, (6-8mm in diameter and 1-1.5" long) actually struggles sometimes to create an effective spray of bb's let alone a loud enough bang to distract anyone in a large area. Yes, they look and sound cool but practical as a frag or general purpose? I think not. Maybe a flashbang in cqb and thats it.
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Post by Reaper6 on Jul 3, 2010 10:48:14 GMT -5
Just a head's-up, the easter-egg BB grenades, while seemingly innocent, are illegal. According to the BATFE, they are considered Improvised Explosive Devices. The same holds true for any device that is home-made (unregulated) that uses a pyrotechnic charge to send shrapnel (regardless of it's material) flying about. I have seen many cases where kids have gotten hurt using these and similar devices. And, for you minors and parents out there, if a child is caught with one of these things, or worse gets hurt with one, not only can the child face charges, but the parent as well.
So, ask yourself, if possible injury and/or prosecution worth the risk for such an inherently ineffective BB grenade?
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Post by Reaper6 on Jul 3, 2010 12:12:50 GMT -5
Grif, that was a very irresponsible thing to post. Especially AFTER being informed that such a device it illegal to produce, possess and use.
Further, I have personally responded to a call where a 14 y/o boy suffered 3rd degree burns to his hand because of a BB Grenade made EXACTLY like that. I was forced to arrest his father for contributing to the delinquency of a minor, child endangerment, illegal possession of an explosive device, illegal production of an explosive device and detonating an explosive device inside city limits. The child was removed from the home and the father received 24 months in jail and 5 years probation. He now has a felony on his record and, more importantly, has scarred his child for life.
Admins and Moderators, if I may, I suggest a modification to the MiA rules banning such devices from use on MiA fields and events based on illegality, liability and, most importantly, safety concerns. These things have the potential to be more dangerous than not wearing full-seal eye-pro.
Respectfully,
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Post by grif264(Alex) on Jul 3, 2010 14:06:20 GMT -5
Grif, that was a very irresponsible thing to post. Especially AFTER being informed that such a device it illegal to produce, possess and use. Further, I have personally responded to a call where a 14 y/o boy suffered 3rd degree burns to his hand because of a BB Grenade made EXACTLY like that. I was forced to arrest his father for contributing to the delinquency of a minor, child endangerment, illegal possession of an explosive device, illegal production of an explosive device and detonating an explosive device inside city limits. The child was removed from the home and the father received 24 months in jail and 5 years probation. He now has a felony on his record and, more importantly, has scarred his child for life. Admins and Moderators, if I may, I suggest a modification to the MiA rules banning such devices from use on MiA fields and events based on illegality, liability and, most importantly, safety concerns. These things have the potential to be more dangerous than not wearing full-seal eye-pro. Respectfully, Sorry, I wasn't reccomending that people build these I was just informing people what they where. I'll delete it now, sorry if I offended you, it was for informational purposes only.
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Post by Cabbage on Jul 3, 2010 14:14:15 GMT -5
Grif, that was a very irresponsible thing to post. Especially AFTER being informed that such a device it illegal to produce, possess and use. Further, I have personally responded to a call where a 14 y/o boy suffered 3rd degree burns to his hand because of a BB Grenade made EXACTLY like that. I was forced to arrest his father for contributing to the delinquency of a minor, child endangerment, illegal possession of an explosive device, illegal production of an explosive device and detonating an explosive device inside city limits. The child was removed from the home and the father received 24 months in jail and 5 years probation. He now has a felony on his record and, more importantly, has scarred his child for life. Admins and Moderators, if I may, I suggest a modification to the MiA rules banning such devices from use on MiA fields and events based on illegality, liability and, most importantly, safety concerns. These things have the potential to be more dangerous than not wearing full-seal eye-pro. Respectfully, Well thats good to know! Considering the number of people that make these, that is a pretty steep punishment but if it gets the point across I guess it's worth it in a way.
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Post by Agouti on Jul 3, 2010 14:56:09 GMT -5
Grif, that was a very irresponsible thing to post. Especially AFTER being informed that such a device it illegal to produce, possess and use. Further, I have personally responded to a call where a 14 y/o boy suffered 3rd degree burns to his hand because of a BB Grenade made EXACTLY like that. I was forced to arrest his father for contributing to the delinquency of a minor, child endangerment, illegal possession of an explosive device, illegal production of an explosive device and detonating an explosive device inside city limits. The child was removed from the home and the father received 24 months in jail and 5 years probation. He now has a felony on his record and, more importantly, has scarred his child for life. Admins and Moderators, if I may, I suggest a modification to the MiA rules banning such devices from use on MiA fields and events based on illegality, liability and, most importantly, safety concerns. These things have the potential to be more dangerous than not wearing full-seal eye-pro. Respectfully, What did griff post? Was it a way to make these ineffective grenades more effective? I'm looking for a cheap effective BB grenade, what was the nature of the one this man created that produced 3rd degree burns? I do assure you, if this was some larger variant I would like to steer clear of it. I'm looking for the smallest variant necessary to effectively propel small bits of corn, peas, or .12 gram bbs. Edited for grammar.
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