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Post by DevilDog on May 21, 2008 14:24:08 GMT -5
Big Texas... I agree. Being a radioman takes a certain type of person! Some love it, while others (like myself) get bored with it. Sounds like you got a good idea going with Black Eagle!
Psychosis.. Playing in similat terrain would be a great! finding hilly, or mountainous, terrian like that in theater would be hard to do here in Michigan. We have some hills here in the great white north, but nothing to that scale!
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Post by Hollow on May 21, 2008 15:48:43 GMT -5
I think there should be insurgents and pedestrians walking around. It would add to the feel of "who is gonna shoot at me."
Scenario: Patrolling through a town north, Iraqis on west and east off you. Who is going to engage you? Sniper shot from the north, quickly your engaged from the east side.
It would just add that much more to a game.
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Post by Psychosis on May 21, 2008 15:53:01 GMT -5
Taliban = Afghanistan != Iraq
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Post by Hollow on May 21, 2008 17:12:40 GMT -5
wat
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Post by kustom on May 21, 2008 19:33:42 GMT -5
Yes, indeed Tex, this is something that may have to come about next year, but it will happen.
Also, like I said, mag loads are being discussed, a preliminary discipline policy is being written (it will be HARSH.), and all that good stuff. I really don't mind new players, but like you said, a few overzelous triggers can ruin everything.
We're also discussing NPC's that will be on the field, as mentioned earlier, a nod towards OP: IRENE.
But yeah, we want squads, especially for people in the same camo, which may be a restriction for play.
Blackwater/PMC security forces: Contractor style, mixed unit, little to no "heavy" weapons like M203's, SAW's, LAWS, etc
Army/ Marines: ACU/ Multicam / MARPAT / DARPAT/ Desert (3 color, digi, chocolate chip) Squads would consist of 1. 1 Squad Leader 2. 1 Radio Operator 3. 1-2 grenadiers 4. ### of riflemen, no grenade launchers 5. 1 SAW gunner 6. Possibly 1 Designated Marksman
ALL squad members would be required to have matching camo.
Then we could have fire support teams of a few SAW gunners, sniper teams of a sniper/spotter, and demo teams with troopers carrying large quantities of mock ordinance, the only people wheo can blow up structures for the American team.
For the insurgent fighters, no such restrictions. I was thinking.... well.... the US and other militaries train their specialists well, so for example, when we demo a building, it goes boom, not fizz (smoke....). For the insurgents, it seems like any haji will run up with a bomb built in a back alley, with sometimes dubious results. Therefore, I was thinking any insugent can carry a demo charge to blow something up.... but it may not always work. That would give them a degree of flexibility weighted with a lower chance of getting it right every time.
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Post by Relarz on May 21, 2008 19:46:42 GMT -5
well, i think the insurgent need to try and look like taliban fighters. street clothes/light camo's, simple rigs.
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Post by Hollow on May 21, 2008 19:51:48 GMT -5
I agree with Kustom and Relish on this one.
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Post by kustom on May 21, 2008 19:57:26 GMT -5
That's the plan, we have an entire insurgent look planned, it'll be a break from what we normally wear, but by God it'll look amazing when a horde of them sweeps down into the guns of their enemy
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Post by Tex on May 21, 2008 20:06:13 GMT -5
And would make it easy to designate teams. Camo vs rag tag.
I think regulating positions for the squad members would be hard as there arent the right amount of grenadiers and support gunners who attend events. But a set number or so with 1 radio man, 1 squad leader, and 1 supply man (nobody but him is allowed to carry loose bb's) would work out well.
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Post by kustom on May 21, 2008 20:11:03 GMT -5
Ohh, forgot the supply guy. Good save, Tex. The grenadiers would simply be the guys with the 203's or whatever on their weapons. As for support, I should have an M60 or 2 up and running by the time the whole thing goes down. People with SAW's will find themselves a bit more valued now, and I was thinking of giving them a "loader" who can carry loose rounds for the SAW's, allowing them more fire time and getting what a SAW or equivilent can really do when everyone else only has rifles with VERY limited ammo.
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Post by kabar on Jun 8, 2008 14:18:40 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this was said because I just kind of skimmed through this, but what about an op: based off of Operation Al-Fajr. (AKA Battle of Fallujah)
I was watching the military channel and they had a documentary about this 10 day long operation. I thought it would make a kick-ass airsoft operation if we could find the right field. It does fit the original idea from kustom in the way of U.S Troops vs. Insurgents. Marines could be at a staging area then get a call over the radio stating that a Black water unit was ambushed and thats when the game would start. As Marines made there way through a city, they had to find weapon cashes and either assassinate or capture a a specific insurgent leader.
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Post by Jumprefusal on Jun 8, 2008 19:08:07 GMT -5
While a Taliban vs. US is a cool game idea, doing it correctly isn't going to be possible in Michigan. Obviously if you wanted to do Afcrackistan you need some mountains and caves. Or a small with village with a DShK inside of haystack, those are always fun. Fallujah is nothing but house after house after house, with only a few open areas and soccer fields scattered about. That of course is every airsofter's wet dream, but very few have played in such a place. But an opposing force in the right garb would really make a fun game, and shouldn't be too difficult for the average airsofter to pull off. Some track pants or blue jeans along with a t-shirt or polo would work just fine, along with a shemagh of course. Or you could take it a step farther with one of these.
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Post by Mles on Jun 9, 2008 11:53:26 GMT -5
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Post by kustom on Jun 9, 2008 20:55:31 GMT -5
Great find, man. I've been wondering about the guns myself. Good to see the guys with RPG's have good trigger discipline. It would be nicer to see the insurgent team going all out with the dirty gun miotif, but I doubt anyone wants to make a $500 gun as rusty-dusty as these guys guns are. On the flip, that would make mag sharing more common, and work with the lof ammo resctrictions we'd impose.
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Post by runswithnospeed on Jun 10, 2008 14:20:11 GMT -5
I am all for makin my AK's lookin like raggidy pieces o'shit. you should make extremelly strict camo regs for example ACU for an army squad and DARPAT for a marine squad and for the insurgants strictly civi's with bits of camo such as a tac vest or ammo pouches. weapons restrictions should only apply to US forces as the insurgant could be using captured weapons.
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