Cowboy
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Post by Cowboy on Feb 12, 2003 17:58:53 GMT -5
Okay, here's the deal. I'm upgrading my MP-5 and I'm wanting to add a silencer with a barrel insert. However, I plan on cutting the barrel (buying a used one for practice) so I can remove the silencer for CQB.
Now the question. Which would be better for durability a quick detach silencer or a screw on silencer? I've never had either so I don't know how bad either of them are for wobble.
Also, does anyone know what type of metal the Systema Tight-bore and the TN Tight-Bore barrels are made of?
(btw, my bro-in-law does metal work so I think we'll be okay as far as cutting/modifying the barrel.)
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Post by SickPointe on Feb 12, 2003 18:01:28 GMT -5
As far as I know, there is no "quick snap off" silencer. Only screw on and off. And when you're doing CQB you wont be taking your silencer off and putting it back on, it's a take it or leave it sort of situation.
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Post by Knief on Feb 12, 2003 19:53:40 GMT -5
Your proposed set up will not work.
When you cut a barrel and put it back together, there will be a gap between the two halves. That gap will let air escape, ans deflect the bb in it's path. You will acctually be hindering your accuracy with such a set up. If you want more accuracy, but don't want a permanent silencer, your only solution is to put an MP5 length tight bore barrel in. It will help some, but not very much. The other option is to get a barrel that will run through a silencer, and then swap out the inner barrels before you go to whatever type of game you want. That will be a pain in the ass, and eventually put a lot of wear on your gun's attachment points. So it's not really a good solution.
There is a silencer for a Mac-11 (i don't know if it's for the KSC/KWA Mac-11 or the maruzen, but there is one) that has an inner barrel in it. The problems i mentioned above have been sighted (rarely, it's a pretty rare item) by owners.
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Post by Ballista on Feb 12, 2003 20:32:43 GMT -5
I own that suppressor. It is made by KSC specifically for their M11, so I doubt it hinders accuracy or power, which would be the opposite of what it's advertised to do. But with an internally upgraded AEG, it's probably not a good idea to throw new variables into the mix of potential limiters, such as an inconsistency in the inner barrel.
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Post by derick on Feb 13, 2003 1:52:02 GMT -5
Actually, there is an MP5 quick detatch silencer and it is pretty awesome. My friend eric has one and i wish that all aegs could adapt this item (M4's and SR16's). it uses a slightly modded version of the 3 prong "flash-hider" which is smaller and made of metal. They also make one that can accept both threads AND quick detach silencers. As concerning you rquestion about the added barrel length, IT isnt an m4 or m16 so you cant break it down and swap barrels in 5 seconds. So what i would suggest is simply buy a standard mp5 tightbore barrell and be happy with it. I MEAN CMON its airsoft, its not going to be too horribly different accuracy wise. Besides i think you will be amazed at how much the tightbore will increase your range and accuracy the length that it already is. I have an SR16 with a tightbore barrel and its not even upgraded yet but i can definately see the increased range already. So i hope i helped you "if im even adressing the right topic" and maybe gave you what you needed. p.s. mp5's arent very accurate to begin with so upgrade it and get a tightbore and a nice long rifle for your long range skirmishes and you have yourself a nice little armory. Heck im even considering getting another aeg:) (this would make 3)
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Post by Minky on Feb 13, 2003 10:35:10 GMT -5
You do know they make M16 specific quick detach suppressors right derick? Anyway, what I was going to say is that technically you should be able to add a quick detach silencer to any gun if you wanted to. There are some ( the Systema one for example) that along with the silencer, they include screw on adaptor that goes onto 14mm counter-clockwise threading. Right away you can fit that adaptor on most Marui AEGs, and with aditional parts/adaptors, you can mount it to any of them. The silencer then attaches to the mounted adaptor on the end of your barrel. Some of the M16 specific quick detach silencers come with their own flash hider to go on the gun, so you could add these to other guns if you wanted as well by just screwing on the flash hider.
For your question about barrels Cowboy, the Systema and KM (makers of the TN barrels) are both made of brass. The TN barrels have an additional coating though, which I've heard conflicting theories about. Some say it's Titanium, which I kind of doubt, others think it's Teflon, which makes more sense to me.
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Post by Cowboy on Feb 13, 2003 11:47:11 GMT -5
Thanks for all the replies, but everyone missed my main point. Silencer durability. Which one will have less wobble, the quick detach, or the screw on? The quick detach type I'm looking at is here: www.airsofttoys.com/viewproductdetail.php?ProdID=507And the screw on type is here: www.airsofttoys.com/viewproductdetail.php?ProdID=944(Yes, I know there are other makers and stores to buy, but these are the basic types) Thanks Minky for the barrel material answer. jdl_9th, as far as the air gap there are a few ways around that. Beveling the two ends so they fit tighter, possible o-rings. Also, I'm buying a used stock barrel to try it out. If it doesn't work, no biggie. If it does, then I'll be one happy Airsofter!
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Post by Minky on Feb 13, 2003 12:42:41 GMT -5
I'd wager that if one was going to wobble, it'd be the quick detach kind. The threaded silencers I've used/seen have all been nice and solid when attached. I've never used a quick detach one, but it seems to me there's more room for error on those to either start out with wobble, or develop it. Read here: www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/beta/html/nukebrowser.php?filnavn=/reviews/mp5_ras/mp5_ras_review.htm for some pics and info about the Guarder QD silencer. It's about 1/3 of the way down the review. If you're looking for a stock barrel to experiment on, I've got 2 sitting here I want to get rid of, from an AK47 and an AUG. Send me a PM if you're interested.
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