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Post by dicepackage on Jul 14, 2002 18:19:43 GMT -5
I might be getting an AK-47 soon from airsoftshop.com. I would like to upgrade the motor but airsoftshop.com doesn't have the motor I want so I would have to buy it from another retailer and install it myself. My question is does anyone know how to install a new motor in the AK-47? If it is complicated and can ruin the gun if I mess up then I would probably be better off not getting the motor. I have heard that the Type III gearbox is more complicated then most AEG gearboxes so that makes me nervous.
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Post by Knief on Jul 14, 2002 18:36:55 GMT -5
The motor isn't in the gearbox in AEGs, it drives it. For the upgrade, do you mean the motor or the gearbox. Upgrading the motor wouldn't enhance the guns preformance very much, just a slight increase in ROF as i understand it, but i might be wrong about that. If you mean you want to upgrade the gearbox with a higher tension spring, stronger gears, bushings, piston head, etc. then that is where you get the real increased preformance. I have never opened up a gearbox, so i can't tell you how hard that will be, i was just hopping to clarify what your intentions are.
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Post by dicepackage on Jul 14, 2002 18:53:30 GMT -5
I am just upgrading the motor myself and going to have airsoftshop install a stronger spring if I end up getting the gun
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Post by Newman on Jul 14, 2002 18:55:50 GMT -5
I just opened up a version 3 mechbox and upgraded it and...
I'd just like to know which motor you plan on putting in there. Systema high-torque type?
The only reason you'd ever need that motor would be if you had an M130/150 or higher, and I don't think the SPAZ guys are going to like you having one of those. ;D
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Post by dicepackage on Jul 14, 2002 19:28:42 GMT -5
M120 spring at the most because we play in a small field. I was going to put in a Hummer EG 1100 AK Type motor. I want enough power to handle the spring even though it isn't much of an upgrade and I also wanted to increase the rate of fire.
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Post by Newman on Jul 14, 2002 19:34:16 GMT -5
Trust me, with a 9.6 volt battery in there, you'll have no problem with ROF. The EG700 is a workhorse. M120 for your little field (as far as I have heard)? That thing goes through pop cans like a proverbial hot knife through butter, and Bigmack's G3 (of Doom ;D) M120 powered blew, literally, through some old glass bottles. You really want to shoot good ol' Joe, Rich, Chuck, etc. with that kind of gun? The biggest upgrade they have is a 150% like me, and 360 FPS is like a perfect power level: longer range, faster bb, and doesn't make people want to wear a mouth guard under their full-face paintball mask.
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Post by Minky on Jul 14, 2002 19:51:59 GMT -5
There shouldn't be any need for a new motor, especially not for an M120. I view the new Systema motors as kind of a novelty item; not really needed, but useful if you've upgraded everything else and are running out of ideas. As Newman said, go for a higher voltage battery if you're worried about powering that spring. If you do decide to change the motor, I don't think it would be hard at all. The Version 3 mechbox is nice because there is no motor adjustment to mess around with, you just screw it right onto the mechbox and you're good to go. About the only thing that might take some time is hooking up the wires from the battery to the motor, which will probably involve soldering them on.
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Post by dicepackage on Jul 14, 2002 19:58:43 GMT -5
Doesn't an M120 give about 350 FPS performance. I was planning on getting the 350 FPS upgrade so I am not sure what type of spring that would be. And I wouldn't be shooting Rich and Chuck I would like them on my team except Joe he doesn't mind getting shot.
EDIT: I am scared of soldering though I have messed up to many things doing it so I think I will just go with the upgraded spring and forget about the motor.
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Post by sting on Jul 14, 2002 20:05:00 GMT -5
m120 puts you around the 400 fps area, 150% puts you at about 350 fps.
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Post by Bigmack on Jul 14, 2002 20:42:32 GMT -5
with an m120, you'd be limited to about an 80 foot engagement distance... ie: ya can't shoot the fella 20 feet away...cause then he'd be justified in unloading a hicap into your ass from 3 feet away.
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Post by Blorfo on Jul 14, 2002 20:45:57 GMT -5
What's all this about me getting shot?
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Post by omegasniper on Jul 14, 2002 20:45:58 GMT -5
wow...i was thinking about getting a 500 fps upgrade for my future CA M24,what's the engagement limit for that?
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Post by Bigmack on Jul 14, 2002 20:52:42 GMT -5
in the realm of 150 feet.
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Post by Knief on Jul 14, 2002 21:00:17 GMT -5
Dice, there are two (main) producers of springs, one is sytema and the other is pdi. pdi uses a percent as their measurment while systema uses an "m". the power that the numbers with these have aren't congruent. a 120% is much weaker than an m120, for example. There is a chart with spring conversions and aproximate fps, which i don't have right now on hand, if anyone else does, that would be great right about now. And as everyone has stated, you won't need a new motor, you may not even need a 9.6v battery, newman used an 8.4 for a while on his M4, I believe.
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Post by Newman on Jul 14, 2002 21:26:25 GMT -5
I used a 9.6 600 mAh "mini" battery for a long time, actually, but they just suck when used in upgraded guns.
I have used an 8.4V 1700 mAh battery for a long time now, and it proves its worth every time I use it. 9.6 volt pshaw, any 8.4 volt battery with enough milliamp hours (mAh) will power an upgraded gun nicely.
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