Back Holster!

[somerandomperson]

Thanks ICE , but that thread didn't answer my question, and the thread was so old that if I posted in it, no one would reply. Also, I don't know what MOLLE, ALICE, or any of thoes other terms are . I would have put this in my previous thread, but replying capabilities are not there... Your doing I suppose, since you're a mod.

My question is, what kind of holster allows you to holster your primary weapon (i.e. Mp5, etc.) on your back? If there even is one, I heard rumor about it.

I think that I have a solid understanding that this kind of holster is mounted on any vest that has modular webbing on the back using something called ALICE Clips . I just would like an explination or referring to a site with info.

-I'm about as sharp as a baseball. That's why I used stupid text speak.

[Gestapo]

Whenever I've seen someone with a weapon on their back, its just been a sling wrapped around their body.

[BoredKender]

i've seen shotgun holsters... but i think you would have to custom-make one for anything else

[xaos]

Er, why would you want to holster your primary (pistol != primary) on your back anyhow? You *should* have it in your hands the very vast majority of the time, and having it truly holstered and not just slung around back would make it damned near impossible to get out with any sort of haste.

Also, to my knowledge, there are no products available for this sort of thing, MOLLE, ALICE, or otherwise. You'd have to custom-build it.

If you want your weapon on your back, get yourself a good three-point sling. They allow you to arrange your weapon just about however you want when it's not in your hands, and allow quick recovery when you want it back in your hands.

[somerandomperson]

Er, why would you want to holster your primary (pistol != primary) on your back anyhow?

Good, question... Why would I have a pistol as a primary? Oh yea... Because I don't.

But seriously, thanks for the help, now I at least know that they don't exist, and that a 3 point sling is the way to go to get at least close to that, or custom build.

[xaos]

somerandomperson said:

Er, why would you want to holster your primary (pistol != primary) on your back anyhow?

Good, question... Why would I have a pistol as a primary? Oh yea... Because I don't.

Please note that the symbol != is equivalent to "not equal to" in many computer programming languages. Thus, I was saying "A pistol isn't a primary weapon, morons".

[somerandomperson]

OK, thanks xaos. But I don't use a pistol for a primary weapon.

Note: I don't want this to turn into a flame war, I just wanted to know if these things existed. So we need to stop while were ahead before this goes where it's headed.

[Talon]

Well, if you were to make a back "holster" (I think the word: "Scabbard" is more appropriate)for an MP5 you would have to account for a few things.
1. The magazine. The magazine of an Mp5 sticks out a long ways, and is relatively thin, making me think it would be flimsy. Therefore you would have to account for the mag when making one. Probably leaving a slit on one side of the scabbard.

2. How to hang it off your back. If you want it to attach to your back there are a few things I could think of for you to do. The first being to attach the scabbard to some sort of backpack type system utilizing shoulder straps. The other would be sewing in MOLLE strips to use ALICE clips. In order to use this system you would need to have a vest with those strips on the back. Similar to this vest from Eagle Industries, only it would need them all the way up the back of the vest. Not just the front.
Then you could use ALICE clips to attach it to your back. You would then also be able to remove it later. The only problem really would be finding a vest with that type of back.

Usually like BoredKender said, they only do this with shotguns (Think Evil Dead) because there isn't that huge mag sticking out, you can then slide the whole weapon into the scabbard keeping it more secure.

Something to think about if you feel like getting creative, it wouldn't really be all that hard to make I don't think. Just have your mom teach you how to use a sewing machine, it is a great skill to have in Airsoft.

[BoredKender]

www.gunslingercorral.com/

maybe look around there for ideas as well

[somerandomperson]

Question...

What is "ALICE" Gear?

I did some searching around the forum and on dogpile, all I got on dogpile were sales and bands with "Alice" in the name.

[Toothbrush]

If you had looked at the link Talon had given you, you would know ALICE = All-purpose, Lightweight, Individual, Carrying Equipment

It is the predecessor to MO.L.L.E. and allows for a simple system by which various pouches can be attached to a belt or vest by the use of (ALICE) clips.

[Striker]

In the movie Aliens (second movie) Hicks carried an ithica shotgun on his back in some hind of holster. He was able to draw the weapon by reaching over his shoulder. I thought that was pretty damn cool.

[Enkidu]

striker93r said:

In the movie Aliens (second movie) Hicks carried an ithica shotgun on his back in some hind of holster. He was able to draw the weapon by reaching over his shoulder. I thought that was pretty damn cool.

Scabbards like this look badass, that's for sure. If you look around various real-steel retailers, you should be able to find scabbards for most rifles and shotguns that don't have long magazines. After I saw the Ash character in Army of Darkness I wanted a shotgun-and-scabbard combo so bad I could taste the oily leather. But then I realized such a thing is not comfortable or much practical.

If you wanna steal from the movies some more, Serenity featured a character with a pretty cool-looking chest-mounted MP5K-alike that released with a kind of seatbelt-buckle type mechanism that looked fairly handy and sweet.

Such a thing is clearly only a movie prop, but cool nonetheless. I suppose such gear could be mounted on the back, maybe with an extention to the release mechanism. Had I the inclination and the spare time, I could probably whip something like this up with bits of spare gear and some things at the local hardware store. Might even be handy for a backup gun.

[Nightcrawler]

I'm totally with Enki. The back holsters (most notably for shotguns) look really cool but simply aren't that practical.

No doubt you'd look like a badass. Bruce Campbell as Ash in Army of Darkness and some other b-movies (the same character appears in the video game 'evil dead') carried his "boomstick" in a back-mounted scabbard. If anyone could practically wield a weapon in such a scabbard, it would truly be an accomplishment.

Perhaps if you had the spare cash and could stumble across a scabbard at a western store or something, it would be a fun project to toy with.

[BoredKender]

see, i would almost be one to try a hip-based scabbard for a shotgun, and use it in a similar fashion to a katana... i think that would be kinda sweet

*makes note to build one for his m3

anyone by any chance know where i can get a stock for the m3 that DOESNT have a pistol grip? (not trying to hijack...)