surrender or die! personally ide rather die

[Motown]

Of course every event organizer is at their discretion when it comes to choosing rules by which to abide by on the airsoft field, however, it's in you and your participants best intrests (saftey, liability, etc) to make and play by rules which make a safe and fun airsoft enviroment. One also should take into account the grade school debate of "you didn't say I couldn't do it" and how it pertains to blaming people for cheating, injury, and plain stupidity.

Something to peruse from the MiA suggested playing rules and guidelines :

Article 16: It is the event organizers option to institute specific rules for extremely close quarter player elimination. Some options for safe elimination of a player are:

• “Knife kill”. If an opponent player is within arms reach a “knife kill” should be used to eliminate the player. This involves touching, not hitting, the player with a hand and declaring a knife “kill”. No “real steel” knife or sharp instrument should be used to institute a knife “kill”, but replica rubber knives/bayonets are permitted. Please use great care when using such items.
• “Surrender”. If an opponent player(s) is within the shooting player’s engagement limits the shooting player should consider asking for the opponent’s surrender. It is mandatory that a player asked to surrender, surrender if the situation clearly indicates that the opponent could have been eliminated by the shooting player. Questions concerning what types of situations clearly indicate surrender will be answered by the event organizers or appointed referees.
• “Parlay”. If opposing players are under their safe engagement limits and find themselves unable to eliminate the other player(s) safely without firing, the players involved may call for a “parlay”. It is mandatory that players accept a parlay if the situation clearly indicates an unsafe or stalemate situation. Once a parlay has been agreed to all players involved may temporarily stop play, retreat to a safe distance, and resume play.

[Talisman]

sarge/gunner, you have to understand that those rules are in place for safety. Every airsoft related incident that happens affects the whole community to some extent. Had one of you been injured badly, the newsies probably woulda jumped on the story to badmouth airsoft yet again, and should the banning/restricting of airsoft ever come up in governmental discussion, that incident could add strength to the argument. The rules are in place not only for protection of you and your health, but also of the health of the community.

[Renegade]

This is great we made page 3 about something that had nothing to do with tales of valor. WHOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Petary791]

Can someone explain this Parlay thing to me please?

[xaos]

Parlay - point blank encounter where each person is equally surprised. Could be dangerous to fire, and nobody has a real advantage.

Both parties agree to parlay, then go their seperate ways.

[NwaGunner08]

I see what you mean now,.. that would really suck if airsoft was banned. Im going to have to tell everyone about the new rules. Thanks

[NWAsarge]

Renegade thank you so much. haha, good to agree about something. How about we just dump the whole thing and start over?

[NWAsarge]

By the way just to clear things up, sorry again but we had not yet read or were even aware of the michigan airsofting rules of engagment, obviously we were not playing by them. I will make sure to tell all of my friends to read and understand the rules posted on the regulations forum.

[Renegade]

Its ok but read the rules and newbie FQA and stuff like that, all very good info.

[Firelotus]

Not to beat a dead horse but, If the opposing team called surrender first and they had the element of suprise then I would call that a capture or kill for yourself. Even though I'm a noob, I don't think that spraying back in a chaotic manner would go over with the two people in front of me, its just seems, lets say, unprofessional. If I was injured a point blank, you would be footing the bill for my cosmetic dentisty

[NwaGunner08]

I will mention again,.. it wasnt point blank,.. it was five feet away, and people who have talked about five feet away shots,.. dont get this much crap do they,... i mean it is the players choice to surrender for that type of a distance

[NwaGunner08]

I forgot a lil bit of info umm.. sorry if that sounded rude but i didnt mean it to be,.. but yea we werent aware of theese rules then sorry about all of the confusion

[Mandor]

Well, personally i think topic has been covered, at length and in depth. The new people have learned something new about ROE and MIA surrender rules. This issue can be let go, or locked, can't it?

[NWAsarge]

well said and yes please haha

[tZ]

mods probly the best idea to lock this thread, i would say keep it unlocked so we can diss and trash thier poor thinking some more. However, they really don't deserve it.

This saturady i had a chance to play with nWa, at deep jungle. Good thing i was on the other side to, or else i don't know if i could say what i am about to. I played against them at the op, in all the games.

However, they are a all a well put together group of young players. They behave responsibly and take the game as serious as it should be taken without the need for trash talk ect. They all, as I saw took thier out's responsibly and maturly. Just proves the fact that younger players can be just as responsible and mature as older players.

Before this game i would have to say i didn't think to much of them, in general from all thier stupid and trash talk on the forums, many thought the same way i did. However, i'm pretty sure most people have turned thier opinion 180 degree's, one of those people is me, after seeing most of your mature playing at deep jungle.

So sorry for the hard time on the forums, at times. You have proved yourself worthy, laugh out loudl- to me at least. ;D

- just don't post stupid shit on the forum and you'll be allright. ;D