Zaraska
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Post by Zaraska on Oct 30, 2014 13:00:51 GMT -5
I like stuff that can take a beating. I don't skimp out on boots or jackets or packs when I don't have to. I think that buying something expensive that is worth the price is better than buying something cheaper that shows for its cheapness. The issue that I have, however, is that a lot of quality yet less expensive outerwear happens to be military surplus. I own an ECWCS fleece and liner gloves but those are passable because they're solid colors - my issue is with wearing camouflage.
I've been considering buying an Arc'teryx LEAF jacket from 2013 on Elite Gear against a surplus ECWCS Level 6 parka in Multicam because I need a new outer layer for winter. While both I expect to be quality I don't know how I feel about wearing Multicam or any camouflage in public when I'm not in the military. The Dead Bird jacket is Overwhite which is acceptable to me (besides being easily stained). It just doesn't feel right to me personally even though Woodland and generic camouflages have been accepted into the mainstream as an okay to wear.
How do you feel about wearing military/mil-spec clothing/accessories that are clearly intended for military use (patch strips, camouflage, etc.)?
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Post by O'Dwah on Oct 30, 2014 13:08:06 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think there's a problem with it as long as you're not wearing rank/insignia. I wear a tan hard shell jacket with an IR flag on the shoulder, and don't run into any questions or comments. A camouflage jacket may be different, who knows.
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Post by Knife on Oct 30, 2014 13:26:37 GMT -5
Just get a solid colored jacket. You won't stand out either way. I love my Arc'teryx Atom LT jacket. Probably not appropriate for what you're looking for, as on the colder days in the winter I'll use a different jacket. Can't go wrong with Arc'teryx though.
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Post by Ogre on Oct 30, 2014 13:30:00 GMT -5
The way I see it, clothing is clothing, if anyone gives you shit over it, tell them the reason you bought it, because it was cheap and it works. If their brains can't handle the fact that it was more economically viable to buy a surplus jacket than waste money on a more expensive and less effective civilian jacket, they were probably the kind of person that couldn't get into the military because they didn't score high enough. That or they are just some crazyed libtard that thinks anything Military issued can blow up railroads. I wouldn't take either group seriously.
Clothing exist for two reasons, warmth and protection, if it provides the warmth and protection you need within your price range, you have no real reason not to pick one up. If you're that worried though, solid colors would be a safe bet. Can't go wrong with good old Olive Drab
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Gabriel
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Post by Gabriel on Oct 30, 2014 13:32:29 GMT -5
I mean, personally I think it looks stupid and makes you conspicous as fuck, but in terms of legality, as long as you don't wear insignia, I don't have an issue with it. The only thing I don't like is when I'm out with friends after a game and they're still cammied up and I can feel people watching us.
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Post by Squirrel on Oct 30, 2014 13:35:35 GMT -5
For technical outerwear, take a look at Oakley. I've got an Oakley jacket that has that reflective foil and weird perforated fleece liner, as well as the pants that button into the jacket, and it has kept me warm down to -10 with the wind chill around -30.
Some of Oakley's newer stuff doesn't use that awesome liner system any more, and the jackets that do will be $300+, but they are well worth it. Mine is close to 5 years old, and really doesn't show any wear.
Other brands that I have owned that will take a beating are Marmot and Mountain Hardware. Marmot gloves can really take a beating. Mine are worn pretty much all winter, and I also use them for hunting. I've sat all day in them with temperatures in the negatives and they will stay warm and dry.
I love Mountain Hardware Fleeces and soft shells. They are as tough as you need them to be.
For boots, I wear Merrell is pretty much all I wear. For wet / snowy / muddy times, I wear Muck boots. You can't find a tougher neoprene boot. For extreme cold, Sorel Chieftain's are probably the best I've owned for a good balance of walkability and cold protection.
It is very possible to buy very durable stuff that doesn't make you look all tacticool. I personally don't like the tacticool look for everyday wear because it tends to advertise the fact that I'm armed, which I don't like drawing attention to. The more I look like everybody else, the better.
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Post by Legionnaire on Oct 30, 2014 13:41:50 GMT -5
If you want something rugged as hell but doesn't look military, Carhartt is your friend.
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Post by Squirrel on Oct 30, 2014 13:54:30 GMT -5
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Post by snafu on Oct 30, 2014 17:07:23 GMT -5
I wear old school 3 color woodland pants all the fucking time. They last forever and are cheap as heck. I'm not a huge fan of wearing a camo jacket but I've however I've owned a couple of the m65 ones in OD and black. I like wearing them with a hoody underneath but it's really more of a style thing I guess. It's certainly not as effective as the new style level 666 stuff.
Edit. I've also owned a few pairs of the old school bates combat boots but they aren't the best for winter. In fact you will likely fall on your ass in them. Merrill or Keen for the win.
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Stache
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Post by Stache on Oct 30, 2014 19:02:44 GMT -5
As most of the other guys here said I think it's fine as long as you don't have any rank, name, or military insignia. As long as you aren't one of those guys pretending to be in the military who really aren't and you don't have any of the above on your gear than I think you're fine. If anything it could be argued it raises support for our troops.
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Post by X on Oct 31, 2014 7:27:46 GMT -5
I would not wear matching pants and top. You will likely run into someone who thinks you are a service member and when they thank you for your service it gets uncomfortable. Almost every military cut blouse comes in a solid color just wear a solid color top and you should be fine.
A funny sort of related story: One time I ran into a guy at micro center who was wearing a black jacket with subdued flags on each arm. I actually stopped him and said hey I think your flag is backwards (his right arm had a non reversed flag). He's like oh man thanks! I'm FBI and today was my first day. This is all they gave me.
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Elvis
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Post by Elvis on Oct 31, 2014 7:39:46 GMT -5
I personally don't like it when people wear camo tops who are notin the military, however, I do not mind camo shorts or pants as much. I think most companies sell them in solid basic colors like khaki, black, blue etc. so if you are really worried, just get a solid color and you will be fine
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Post by X on Oct 31, 2014 10:25:44 GMT -5
You know i said the same thing, but then again here I am today at work...
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Post by Mosin on Oct 31, 2014 23:50:20 GMT -5
Dat Geronimo patch though.
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Post by Zdybel on Nov 1, 2014 9:35:33 GMT -5
Get some Patagonia cold gear. But arc teryx is still a great company.
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