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Post by Ajax on May 21, 2014 10:23:21 GMT -5
Greetings, I have been playing airsoft for a little bit of time but have never done anything more than "backyard battles", and have finally decided to try out more serious airsoft. I am recently graduated and have a number of newbie questions, so please stay patience with me. 1. My current airsoft gun is the crossman pulse R76, this has served me well for what I have done so far, but I know that it wouldn't be able to stand against the more expensive replicas. I have looked into getting the G&G combat machine m4, as I have heard virtually nothing negative about them, but was wondering if there was any other airsoft guns I should consider. I am looking for reliability and versitality, but also relatively inexpensive. 2. I am also looking for a good chest rig but am not certain what kind a beginner should get. I've looked into the MOLLE type rigs and I like the versitality of them, but I'm still uncertain of them. Main thing for me is cost. 3. What kind of lubricant should I use? I've heard people say that I shouldn't use the oil based silicon because it clogs up the inner workings of the gun, so what kind am I supposed to use? 4. The main reason I'm getting into the serious side of airsoft is for the MilSims, and I heard that one would need a radio for them. What kind of radio? I'm assuming my walkie talkies from radioshack wouldn't be enough. I think that was all my questions (for now ) thanks for any and all help!
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Post by Ogre on May 21, 2014 12:45:00 GMT -5
Hello and welcome to the Forums, I believe I can be of some help.
1. The G&G Combat Machine is a very good Replica to start with, the overwhelming opinion on the forums is positive, although some disagree. I currently own a Combat Machine going on 3 years strong. One bit of advice though, the stock inner barrel sucks. You are going to want to replace that right off that bat. The stock G&G barrel is light aluminum that can't handle much stress, I snapped it in half in between two fingers. I would recommend a good brass or Aircraft Aluminum tightbore. Madbull makes aluminum tight bore barrels that good quality for your first tightbore and can generally be bought for around 30 bucks. Not only does the tightbore give you better consistency it improves your range a little and will give you a slight FPS boost. G&G is a company known for its reliability, you really can't go wrong with any of their models, And I think they arguably have some of the best quality polymer bodies on the market, even beating Marui.
2. Chest rigs, once you buy all the pouches, are not cheep, depending on the brand or if it is real steel gear or not, can run upwards of $600, Your two best options for a good rig starting off is going to either be to buy used from one of the members on the forums, or buy Condor, I run a Condor recon rig and it is decent, comes with 6 pouches built in and has room for expansion, It only cost me 40 dollars.
3. Lube. I can't speak much for this because I haven't broken into my gearbox yet, silicon is generally used for installing a bucking if you are having trouble sliding the hop up unit onto the bucking. I would imagine for the gearbox you would go with a thicker lube/grease. Anyone who is more experienced feel free to chim in.
4. I run Motorolla Talkabouts, They will pretty much work on every field save your 100+ acre fields. Anything where you expect to be traveling large distances you are going to want a programmable radio like a ICOM or a Baefeng UVR5.
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Post by Gabriel on May 21, 2014 16:04:33 GMT -5
Welcome aboard.
1. As Ogre said, and you suggested, the Combat Machine is pretty much the go to for a first gun. The tippman 98 is the "AK-47 of the paintball world", and the G&G Combat Machine is the "AK-47 of the airsoft world". Those guns can take a beating, are cheap, and have pretty good stock performance (aside of the inner barrel). Almost everyone (except me) has had one at one time or another.
2. I recommend a dedicated chest rig (pouches built in, not MOLLE) for beginners. They are cheap, durable, and easy to use. I would personally recommend a Pantac Chest rig (their generic 1961 style one), due to its durability. However, it runs about $80, so you might want to go cheaper. Your call, though.
3. I regret to say, but I can't help you much there. All I use is a little silicone on my guns. I havent even cracked open the gearbox on my guns yet.
4. Baofeng radios are the way to go. They are cheap, fairly durable, and powerful. For around $60 on amazon, you can get a radio, extended battery, and headset. They blow Motorolla Talkabouts out of the water (and I even had the nice end Talkabouts).
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Post by Shadow (314) on May 21, 2014 17:24:46 GMT -5
Hello! The most important thing to know when asking questions on this forum is that some answers will be true answers and many others will be opinions. Stuff like "What is best?", "Should I?", and others will be open for many differences in opinion. That said, try not to blow off people's opinions here as many of these people have been playing and have seen things on the field for many years. Experience is a big part of this sport. I'll try to differentiate my answers and make these points known.
1. G&G combat machines have a reputation for being great starters. Why? because they perform around the middle of the road out of the box, have decent construction, and have just about every aftermarket part available for them. When selecting an airsoft gun, a common factor is what parts are available for this gun should I want to upgrade or replace a broken part. If you are looking into other guns similar to this for a low-end cost, I would suggest considering the CYMA 028 (AK47), or JG G36. All of this depends on what rifle style feels comfortable to you. With the G36, do realize that stock, it will not take M4 mags. I mention this because, by far, the most available and usually cheapest magazines for airsoft will be variations of M4 style magazines. Now, this is my opinion and it's really your money, your choice, and your life. None of us will care if you pick one or the other over even simple reasons like you think one is just cooler. A large part of MiA milsim is often just feeling the part.
2. This comes to so many options I can't even describe. It very much depends on your size, what you want to carry, cost, and how you want it to feel. Many airsofters will use MOLLE plate carriers. Some will use only a battle belt with a harness. Others will stuff everything in their pockets. Unless you're looking to emulate a real steel form, I would suggest that you first think about those factors described and see what matches that description. Only use what you need because even if it's only for a few hours of gameplay, every pound and point of rubbing makes a difference.
3. This again is a source of debate. My opinion is that both Silicon oil and White Lithium grease are acceptable in the gearbox while pure silicone is most used in the hop up areas. Silicon is often used in airsoft because it is believed that it will not degrade plastic and rubber parts like other oils, especially petroleum distillates, or mineral oil. I don't mind using white lithium in the gearbox and external parts because it is incredibly slippery and has the right consistancy for this use. Do be aware, however; that if you use any white lithium in the gerbox in an area that may get into the cylinder, some of that oil may find its way to the Hop up Bucking where it is believed that it may cause harm.
4. Many Milsim games will require that you have a working radio, though not all. You'll find that most airsofters use some version of the motorola talkabout. These radios are pretty cheap and many accessories are available. Once you start getting into larger playing fields, fields with large structures, or fields with large variations in terrain, these radios will show their weaknesses. The power output of radios without a license is regulated in this country so be aware that even the most expensive radio will have shortcomings if you plan to follow the law. I do advise though, that you get a decent radio because at milsims, there are not many things like not knowing what you're supposed to be doing, or where you and your team mates are that can ruin a perfectly good day and anger a lot of other players that were relying on you. Knowing what to do gets the job done and wins the game. It's a lot more fun when you win the game. A quick note on radios: Please never use the call button. It's loud, not needed, covers up what communication is needed, and ticks off a lot of people. What I suggest is, cut out the call button and fill the hole with hot glue.
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Post by Phantom Reaper on May 21, 2014 18:09:47 GMT -5
A quick note on radios: Please never use the call button. It's loud, not needed, covers up what communication is needed, and ticks off a lot of people. What I suggest is, cut out the call button and fill the hole with hot glue. Another thing to note is some radio's use a roger beap (not sure the actual name) which is not only annoying but can give away the position of yourself and your team mates, so if yours does I suggest finding a way to disable it. Sent from my SM-T210R using Tapatalk
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Post by bobbunny on May 21, 2014 18:41:18 GMT -5
As a side note (although a little unrelated), make sure you definitely do not skimp out on eye and face protection. Good pair of goggles and a face mask will only run you <$40 probably. Also, make sure you get knee pads and full length gloves. Shots the flesh may sting, but shots to joints and small digits hurt like no tomorrow (And because kneeling on concrete for over 5 minutes is painful).
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Post by Ajax on May 21, 2014 22:57:05 GMT -5
Hey, thanks everyone for the responses, they have been helpful. Just a few more quick questions (I knew I'd find some more:P)
BBs : I have heard that the ones from Walmart are not very good and that I should only use ones from actual airsoft stores or websites. Is this really an issue? I've been using walmart's and have not run into any issues.
Optics: I know they are not required for airsoft but I'm interested in one. What are some good cheaper brands? I'm looking for just the general red dot style.
Websites: what are some good reputable airsoft websites? I know about airsoftgi but other than that I'm pretty clueless.
Thanks again for any responses to my questions.
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Post by Puma1 on May 21, 2014 23:47:22 GMT -5
BB's: In your crossman pulse, Wally world BB's aren't going to be any real problem. However, the tolerances allowed in an AEG barrel are much more finite. In short, the walmart bbs fit because your barrel is already a large diameter. With an AEG, your barrel is a much tighter bore and the inconstancy of the BB"s could severely damage your inner barrel. (Imagine trying to shoot a 6.06mm BB through a 6.05mm Barrel. The results won't be pretty.) On a side note, I recommend Goldenball BB's from AirsoftMegastore.com, simply because they currently have free shipping on everything.
Optics: In my experience, airsoft optics are a personal choice. They're not really necessary due to the short distances a BB can reach, but they are useful with sniper rifles and long range DMR's. I personally don't like the look of Eotech reticles, so I never use them. I do however, like the reflex style sights, so that's what I use. Find what you like, know that you get what you pay for and you should be relatively happy with your optic.
Websites I've had great experiences with: Airsoft GI Evike Airsoft Atlanta Airsoft Megastore (They get a bad rep around here, but I've never had a problem with their services or products) Clandestine and Brill armory (mainly for internals) Those are the retailers I've dealt with directly.
Welcome to the forums and the best of luck to you. I hope to see you on the field.
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Post by X on May 22, 2014 8:39:13 GMT -5
BBs : I have heard that the ones from Walmart are not very good and that I should only use ones from actual airsoft stores or websites. Is this really an issue? I've been using walmart's and have not run into any issues. Just because you haven't run into any issues doesn't mean they're worth buying. The Walmart BBs will be less accurate than any quality BB purchased online. BBs like Airsoft Elite, Bioval, Tokyo Marui, G&G, Golden Ball(so I've heard) are all going to outperform the Walmart BBs and they barely cost any more. Sent from my XT1080 using proboards
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Post by Kjones on May 24, 2014 3:09:23 GMT -5
I have shot many thousands of wally world bbs. They are pretty much shit compared to any other real brand of bbs. I have only had 1 jam in 50k+ bbs so I do not worry about barrel damage but the real downside to them is there accuracy is very poor past 50 feet, they tent to turn in every direction. I still do use wally world bbs for CQB because they are dirt cheap, easy to get a hold of fast, and in cqb it is rare to have a shot longer then 25 feet so accuracy does not matter. I really like the G&G bbs. They are pretty cheap and preform good. link to g&g bbs. $8 for 3k bbs. www.airsplat.com/Items/B25-GG-3000.htm
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Post by Phantom Reaper on May 24, 2014 11:12:39 GMT -5
The only Wally World BBs that are halfway decent are the Black Ops BBs. I've seen people run them in a varity of brands, platforms and qualities of airsoft guns with little issue, other then that though stay away from Wal*Mart for anything besides C02.
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Post by T6e9a on May 25, 2014 15:58:45 GMT -5
Keep the Wally World bbs, including the Black Ops BBs to grenades, LPEAGS, and other such, or for breaking in your magazine mid caps, but not for shooting in any high quality gun.
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Post by Thor on May 25, 2014 20:29:04 GMT -5
Kjones touched on this regarding WalMart bb's but I feel it should be elaborated on, the reason you would want to steer clear of them is because they are often not very uniform in size or shape. They can be out of round, and sometimes will have rough seams on them which will also make them not as accurate. I wouldn't be too concerned with them damaging your barrel or anything, since even brass is harder than the plastic they're made of, but they will have very poor performance. For something as low cost as bb's are anyway, you're better off spending a little more and getting some decent quality ones.
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Post by Snarf on May 25, 2014 20:39:11 GMT -5
I think kjones and t6 both have legitimate points. If you already bought them, keep them just for uses that require no accuracy (like grenades) or for your friend who's borrowing your crappy loaner gun for example.
In terms of jamming I can't really tell; I've experienced jams with good BB's, but that was a bucking problem. But considering the inconsistencies Thor pointed out, I wouldn't use them (especially with a tbb, that's just asking for trouble).
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Post by Ogre on May 26, 2014 1:06:40 GMT -5
Or just use them for CQB where accuracy doesn't count as much.
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