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Post by Stinger on May 3, 2014 12:53:08 GMT -5
Shame you had a bad time. I went to their last free day about a year ago and having already attended a No Limits game I found myself disgusted by the end of the day. I understand that most places are primarily paintball fields however most of the other places I've attended are courteous to both their large amount of Paintball Players as well as their large amount of Airsofters. They understand that both games are different and have different rules and do accommodate for it. Then there's Futureball. Refs give airsofters attitudes, Rotate our 200 players to accommodate the wants/needs of 12 paintball players as if we're inferior, and if I recall people got injured that day as well. Its a shame too because the field is pretty decent. Anyway thanks for sharing. The more I go to other airsoft fields, the more I agree with the above sentiments. I was surprised before to hear everyone berating Futureball, but I was heavily biased towards FB at the time because it was the only place I had been to. In light of recent events, as well as the personal thoughts of me and other members of my team, we will be going to Futureball far less this season than we had originally planned. We'll be going to MiA events much more instead, especially Action Paintball/No Limits games (because those are just amazing). It's a shame, because Futureball is so close to most of us on the team. |
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Post by Knief on May 3, 2014 17:10:33 GMT -5
It would take so little from James to make Futureball the premier airsoft field in the area; he could beat out No Limits easily just because of his space. He either doesn't understand how to accommodate us or doesn't care it. Personally, I think it's the former. I worked with him running airsoft games for two or three years and I don't think he's ever understood how different our sports and cultures are.
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Post by Ogre on May 3, 2014 17:40:48 GMT -5
Invite him to observe a game at Bangor or no limits. Show him how real airsoft is played, maybe something will click.
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Post by Stinger on May 4, 2014 8:55:36 GMT -5
It would take so little from James to make Futureball the premier airsoft field in the area; he could beat out No Limits easily just because of his space. He either doesn't understand how to accommodate us or doesn't care it. Personally, I think it's the former. I worked with him running airsoft games for two or three years and I don't think he's ever understood how different our sports and cultures are. On another, similar note, he could do so much to harness the power of my YouTube channel for Futureball. Of course he doesn't care about that either. I'm quite sure that he's reluctant towards any change, and holds some sort of animosity towards MiA. As does Chris. |
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Post by avidediter on May 4, 2014 11:30:49 GMT -5
As a business owner, they should do what is right for the customer. If he doesn't want airsofter players. Then don't invite them. Otherwise, they need to make an environment that is conducive for those customers. That would include employing refs who know airsoft and understand their unique needs. Business 101...
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Post by Stinger on May 13, 2014 18:10:40 GMT -5
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Post by Psychosis on May 22, 2014 22:41:23 GMT -5
Invite him to observe a game at Bangor or no limits. Show him how real airsoft is played, maybe something will click. The last time we played a mainstream MiA game at Futureball was at least six-seven years ago, before we stopped using the place due to all kinds of drama. If nothing's changed since, then there's no point in trying to deal with personality-driven conflicts. |
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Post by Ogre on May 23, 2014 6:45:15 GMT -5
Invite him to observe a game at Bangor or no limits. Show him how real airsoft is played, maybe something will click. The last time we played a mainstream MiA game at Futureball was at least six-seven years ago, before we stopped using the place due to all kinds of drama. If nothing's changed since, then there's no point in trying to deal with personality-driven conflicts. Then as I advocated before, Boycott. I know as a forum we would be overstepping our bounds but as far as I'm concerned its only a matter of time until another incident happens, be it someone brings a pellet gun onto the field or they allow some sort of non complacent eye pro and someone gets seriously injured. That could easily cause us to lose our sport here, or at least face heavy restrictions on it. We have the membership and enough people who know Airsoft players who aren't on the forums. If we remove a good source of income for them, as well as getting some paintballers in on it. He will have the choice of either conforming or going out of business, as far as I'm concerned that's a win/win because whoever buys out the place will probably have more sense than the one who currently owns the field. |
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Post by Psychosis on May 23, 2014 19:53:03 GMT -5
The last time we played a mainstream MiA game at Futureball was at least six-seven years ago, before we stopped using the place due to all kinds of drama. If nothing's changed since, then there's no point in trying to deal with personality-driven conflicts. Then as I advocated before, Boycott. I know as a forum we would be overstepping our bounds but as far as I'm concerned its only a matter of time until another incident happens, be it someone brings a pellet gun onto the field or they allow some sort of non complacent eye pro and someone gets seriously injured. That could easily cause us to lose our sport here, or at least face heavy restrictions on it. We have the membership and enough people who know Airsoft players who aren't on the forums. If we remove a good source of income for them, as well as getting some paintballers in on it. He will have the choice of either conforming or going out of business, as far as I'm concerned that's a win/win because whoever buys out the place will probably have more sense than the one who currently owns the field. The point is that they are too dense to deal with us, either way. If people want to continue playing there, fine. If airsofters stopped playing there, it wouldn't hurt their core base of paintballers. |
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Post by Stinger on May 24, 2014 13:27:34 GMT -5
The last time we played a mainstream MiA game at Futureball was at least six-seven years ago, before we stopped using the place due to all kinds of drama. If nothing's changed since, then there's no point in trying to deal with personality-driven conflicts. Then as I advocated before, Boycott. I know as a forum we would be overstepping our bounds but as far as I'm concerned its only a matter of time until another incident happens, be it someone brings a pellet gun onto the field or they allow some sort of non complacent eye pro and someone gets seriously injured. That could easily cause us to lose our sport here, or at least face heavy restrictions on it. We have the membership and enough people who know Airsoft players who aren't on the forums. If we remove a good source of income for them, as well as getting some paintballers in on it. He will have the choice of either conforming or going out of business, as far as I'm concerned that's a win/win because whoever buys out the place will probably have more sense than the one who currently owns the field. I don't see this working, because they don't make any money on airsoft. All of their income is from paintball. |
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Post by Stinger on May 24, 2014 17:21:07 GMT -5
Sorry for double-post, but this is pretty urgent. At Futureball today, a friend of mine went along with his young team (they're thirteen/fourteen years old). He just sent me an email with pictures of him. He has five or six BB welts that were bleeding. He claims it was from another (experienced) player who was shooting point-blank full-auto with a very hot gun. We know who the other player was, but I'm not going to state it here yet. I'm not sure how much, if at all, the referees were involved in this. I was not at the field today. Like you guys said, it was only a matter of time before something else happened. Pictures (cropped close to hide identity, etc.):     |
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Post by snafu on May 24, 2014 18:40:42 GMT -5
Looks painful. It I've had similar playing airsoft. If someone overkilled me like that I would have had words with them in the parking lot for sure!
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Post by Gunny87 on May 24, 2014 22:00:34 GMT -5
Why anyone still plays airsoft there is beyond me. I understand not everyone knows about Futureball's reputation with hosting airsoft games but jeez it's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured there.
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Post by marine121496 on May 25, 2014 0:45:26 GMT -5
I'm very curious to know who this experienced player was, I was out there and as soon as that was brought to attention everyone was taken back to chrono but no one was found to be firing very hot from what I understood, I suspect it was just an average fps weapon at point blank.
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Post by 99accordv6 on May 25, 2014 15:50:02 GMT -5
Do they not have rules of engagement over at Futureball?
Like I stated before, I will not give another $1 to Futureball.
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