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Post by Chapy (Tupac) on Apr 22, 2014 8:06:19 GMT -5
So I most of the basic gear, multicam bdus, jpc, helmet, gun. But what I need help is all of the small stuff what do pjs run on their first and second lines? Glow sticks? Pouches? Please help pictures would be good aswell
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Post by Abbot on Apr 22, 2014 8:18:15 GMT -5
My advice would be to ditch the MC BDU. They would run Crye combat sets. Maybe the field (BDU) pants, if anything at all, but prolly not the shirt. Try Gearsoc or militaryphotos.net. They have threads in the gallery sections specifically dedicated to PJ stuff.
By the by, the "glow sticks" are chemlights.
Edit: What helmet and gun are you running?
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Post by Chapy (Tupac) on Apr 22, 2014 8:36:11 GMT -5
So I'm running replica cryes and the helmet is a Emerson pj fast helmet
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Post by Abbot on Apr 22, 2014 8:42:48 GMT -5
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Post by Chapy (Tupac) on Apr 22, 2014 13:12:56 GMT -5
Ok thanks abbot
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Post by Chapy (Tupac) on Apr 23, 2014 9:12:49 GMT -5
So through research jv found this list
-CP Combat Shirt/Pants, Merril Sawtooth or Asolo FSN GTX 95, Oakley, Mechanix, BHI gloves, tan riggers styled belt.
-Ops Core FAST Helmet, Go-Pro Camera mounted to one rail, Surefire light mounted to other, V-Lite attached to back and IR flag on either side of his choice. If he wants he can mount a Wilcox to the VAS shroud but I doubt he wants to hah. For goggles he can rock Oakley A-Frames or ESS'.
-LBT 6094, mix of khaki Eagle Industries, Paraclete and Tactical Tailor pouches. His choice of a setup really. Keep it streamlined and low profile. Look for things like mags, frags, medical gear, a radio, and hydration. Keep the back plate area clear for a medic bag, like a TSSI M9 or Eagle A-III Med Bag. Use a canteen pouch for hydration instead of an actual hydro pack or carrier.
-Gerber tool w/ pouch, rappeling harness (For looks if he wants to go all the way), numerous carabiners for chemlights, 100MPH/electrical tape, and zipties, trauma shears and CAT tourniquets placed in easy to access areas, IR patches for ID (Reversed flag, small 1"x1" or 2"x2" tabs, callsign patches, NKDA/NO PEN or blood type patches.
Keep in mind that PJ's are medical guys, so focusing on small things like the CAT tourniquets and shears are a real plus towards the kit. They also do a lot of rappeling and helicopter work so the harness is also a plus.
And for a rifle just stick with a basic M4 RIS. Get an EOTech or Aimpoint and a Magnifier. PEQ-15 and Surefire M600C or M961. Sling of his choice but BFG ones are common.
Regular M9 w/ a Safariland 6004 and a Gemtech lanyard
What do you think is this a good pj kit?
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Post by Knife on Apr 23, 2014 10:00:22 GMT -5
While PJ stuff is by no means my area of focus, I'd say there are a few weird things with that. Any kind of helmet camera is irrelevant, and specifically I do not believe a Go Pro can mount to a rail? Lacks a strobe, MS2000s were very common, and I know Helstars are used. I'm unsure if Mantas are used, but I would not be shocked if they are. I'd skip a Surefire HL in favor of an MPLS or perhaps Charge. For NODs, a VAS + Wilcox L4 G24 in tan would be ideal. I think Sawtooth's are out of production, and an out of date and heavy boot. I've heard good things about Asolos, but I have no experience with them. I'd go with Salomans, the ones I have are by the most comfortable shows of any type I've ever worn. I use these: www.amazon.com/Salomon-Mens-Ultra-Trail-Running/dp/B004LB4P14/ref=cts_sh_1_fbt I originally bought them for airsoft a year ago, but they've become my pretty much every day shoe. They make a mid boot version as well, which I'll probably purchase after not too long. Outdoor Research gloves, and Nomex Flight gloves are also used. If you go for a 6094 I'd grab a Multicam one. Multicam pouches are also common "numerous carabiners for chemlights" is rather silly. I'd lean towards getting SOF-T Wides rather than CATs. I do not believe an M961 light is appropriate either, especially if you're doing something in the last couple of years. ACOGs and Specter DRs are also used. For comms, COMTAC IIs or IIIs. PRC152 have become common. I'd completely ditch the M9, if you're dead set on purchasing one ditch the lanyard. TT First Responder Bags are/were used. The NARP version too probably.
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Post by Chapy (Tupac) on Apr 23, 2014 15:27:33 GMT -5
Thanks knife that helps I know this was kinda dated a few years
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Post by Deacon on Apr 23, 2014 18:25:14 GMT -5
Helmets: Ops-Core Ballistics while Deployed. Mich 2000 while Deployed. Mich 2001 while Deployed. Ops-Core Carbons while Training. Protec Alpha Half Shell while training.
BDU: Crye Precision Gen 2 AC in Multicam Crye Precision Gen 3 in Multicam A combination of AC/Gen 3 in Multicam M81 DCU Crye Precision Sand (Training)
1st Line: Safariland Drop-leg Holster Beretta M9 Personal Retention Strap
2nd Line: LBT 6094 Crye Precision JPC Crye Precision AVS Crye Precision CPC (Rarely seen) Early year kits are damn near kit bash of everything. Mainly things the PJ felt worked tailored to their mission.
3rd Line: Most of a PJ's Medical kit is based out of their chopper on Medevacs. Jumps generally involve Bags: LBT 1562A(SF) or (PJ) Bag TT First Responders Bag North American Rescue Squad Kit.
Primary Weapon: Sopmod M4-A1 14.5" with standard SOPMOD Block 1 Accessories. Sopmod Block 2 "MK18", SOPMOD Block II Accessories
Comms: PRC 148, PRC 152 Headsets are Generally Comtac II,III as Knife said.
This sounds atrocious. You want a Contour mounted to a rail, not a Go-Pro. Surefire Light should be changed to a Princeton Tech MPLS(in some cases dual.) In place of the V-Lite I'd change that out for a Hel-star 5 or MS2000 Strobe.
Also: These are just my thoughts. I wish I still had photos of my PJ Kit for you to go off of.
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Post by Chapy (Tupac) on Apr 24, 2014 9:15:30 GMT -5
Thanks this is really helping
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