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Post by dizzyshot (Bad Company) on Apr 17, 2014 21:56:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deacon on Apr 17, 2014 22:42:44 GMT -5
Remove the orange. Then sand down the front edge of the hop up unit(the side that is away from the gearbox) until you have a flush fit between the lower receiver, hop up, gearbox and upper receiver. Everything should mate flush with the upper installed putting pressure on the hop up unit against the gearbox.
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Post by dizzyshot (Bad Company) on Apr 18, 2014 16:55:12 GMT -5
Your solution/idea Deacon would be one that if I if I went with it there would be no going back correct? Oh and could you possibly make a picture similar to the one above on how far/much of the hop up should I shave off. Thanks again also Deacon you always have been giving good advice.
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Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on Apr 19, 2014 17:43:40 GMT -5
You'd be better off upgrading the body to one that accepts 1 piece hop-ups. Going from 2 to 1 is usually a pain the arse. Your JG is a flip up body like the real deal where as 1 piece styles are sliders. So now if you go this route (which once is done there is no going back) then you will have to half flip/slide the body from now on. I forget if your JG is plastic or metal bodied (looks plastic). If it's plastic I'd just get a new metal body like a G&P that includes the 1 piece hop-up. Save you headaches down the road. I say this because the plastic body tabs on the rear of the upper aren't as strong as metal ones of the same variety. Here are some pictures of my old Hurricane Metal bodied M4; I wouldn't touch your hop-up. I would just do what you see in the pictures and cut a square out in the front of your lower. Just big enough to where your upper receivers front will cover it.
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Post by dizzyshot (Bad Company) on Apr 19, 2014 20:49:24 GMT -5
My JG is plastic upper and lower I can get pics up of it later. Also I'll show you how far I've been going with Deacons suggestion at the moment because I've stopped continuing until I've had more people give suggestions.
Edit: The reason you guys should know to why I have asked for help on this topic is because my gun has a custom paint job done by Maverick that I really like and I wouldn't like to get another body at all.
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Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on Apr 19, 2014 21:21:17 GMT -5
My third picture shows what you'll have to remove most likely. The reason is that since your body hinges into place from the two piece hop-up, it falls onto the hop-up and the part underneath seals it. One pieces slide on and onto the air nozzle. So in order for yours to work that will have to happen. The only problem is usually plastic bodies are tight on the gearbox which would mean the plastic tabs can't slide in the gaps and into place. My metal gearbox doesn't have this issue when it slides because of the one gaps on the sides of the gearbox that allow the tabs to slide along the gearbox.
So more then likely you'll have to "pop" the upper over the top of the gearbox right in front of the air nozzle, and slide it the rest of the way into place. So the lower has to have that front section removed so the hop-up can clear the body.
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Post by dizzyshot (Bad Company) on Apr 19, 2014 21:50:24 GMT -5
I believe I understand what your saying Mayhem and seeing as you have lots of experience in this "department" I would like to ask you, would you need to shave down any part of the actual hop up unit? I know Deacon said that the part farthest from the gearbox would need to be shaved down would I still need to shave down any other parts of the hop up?
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Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on Apr 19, 2014 21:55:48 GMT -5
In my honest opinion I don't think so, but in the case it might have to be I'd do the lower first and test fit it and go from there. I've never had to modify the hop-up to fit in my past experiences with 2 to 1 conversions.
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Post by dizzyshot (Bad Company) on Apr 19, 2014 22:01:33 GMT -5
Okay well again thank you Mayhem I probably won't be able to work on my replica tomorrow because its Easter, but again thanks. To any one that will look at this thread this far Happy Easter.
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Post by dizzyshot (Bad Company) on Apr 20, 2014 19:23:20 GMT -5
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Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on Apr 20, 2014 20:13:09 GMT -5
What do you mean part after the little stub? I would take everything in green out (those side tracks inside the body, the hop-up "resting pad" and the front section underneath the body pin area just deep enough to the bottom of the body pin area). *Note: I don't think you have to take 1/2 of the tabs inside the body, you can if you want to, but I don't think they'll effect much there or not (the area I'm talking about is in orange).
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Post by dizzyshot (Bad Company) on Apr 20, 2014 20:31:58 GMT -5
The area you highlighted in the first picture (the one with the orange) is the part after the stub I was speaking of, sorry making it clear on what each piece is just doesn't bold well with me.
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Post by dizzyshot (Bad Company) on Apr 23, 2014 17:50:01 GMT -5
I said I would get back to you all on how the installation went. Well its in and working fine, but I still got a problem. I had before hand thought this problem could be fixed with the new hop up. I was wrong. When test firing my gun to make sure it 1) Was working with the hop up correctly, and 2) Would shot the 50 feet to my shed. It shot, however the farthest BB only shot 30 feet and sometimes the BB's would not come at all. When it dried fired it would then shoot out 2 BB's when it finally decided to fire. Some shots would also only go out of the barrels edge and drop. I've had a trusted tech at my local field say that it could be gearbox issues or hop up issues, but didn't have the chance to have him look over it. I'm wondering if any of you can give me any more possible problems their could be and/or solutions. Any help is much appreciated and I thank you for taking the time to answer my plea for help.
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Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on Apr 24, 2014 15:28:18 GMT -5
We need insight into the gearbox, I'm going to assume that you have other threads open for tech help that may explain this further. I'm going to pick the lazy route though. Is the gearbox stock, did you do anything to it if not? If you opened it up did it work fine after or is this where you started seeing issues? It could be a variety of things, honestly it sounds like either a timing issue in which your tappet plate is getting pulled back too early or too late and causing feeding style issues of some sort. That or maybe compression issues.
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Post by dizzyshot (Bad Company) on Apr 24, 2014 15:57:00 GMT -5
Its a stock gearbox except for a Lonex Spring I installed myself because my gun was shooting hot for my local field. How ever before that I had opened up my gearbox and the issues started to occur. The reason I opened it up earlier was because I mentioned my gun having FPS "hops" and not firing in semi after like 5 shots, in another thread and someone recommended a way to figure out the true problem. After I opened it up the gun and put it back together it would shoot on semi, but obviously know it won't fire the BB's properly.
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