Hogs Tooth *7.62*
New Member
I push peter, more sweeter, and more completer than any peter pusher around
Posts: 39
|
Post by Hogs Tooth *7.62* on Mar 16, 2014 18:22:10 GMT -5
hi guys, I was convinced not to do the mp5 build so now I want to build a mk18.
i'll give you a list of things I want your opinions on
**EDIT** In case anyone else decides to jump on board this thread I will have a list and build amount so far of what I have purchased. following that I will have a list of ideas for accessories.
for some of these items I went bare minimum just because I couldn't decide what I liked better
Base-G&P m4 AEG Challenge kit (seal team 6)-144.99 Rails-DD MK18 9.5 inch dark earth rails-110.00 Stock-Matrix Tan Crane Stock with Buffer-35.00 Outer Barrel-Madbull 10.3 inch Outer Barrel-41.00 Hop-Up-Stock G&P Unit-18.00 Inner Barrel-Lonex 6.03 247mm (I picked this because I have never tried a Lonex barrel)-23.40 Gas Block-G&P low-pro gas block type B-14.00
now for external accessories
1. Sights (EO-Tech or T1?) 2. Fore Grip (Avengers m900 0r MF react mag grip?) 3. Rail Covers (Ladder or Panels)
At the end of next week I will be purchasing pretty much every part in the gear box so here are some ideas 1. Gears- Guarder HI-Torque gears 2. Piston- Mad bull PX-02 3. Piston head- Matrix CNC aluminum double ring head 4. Guide- Mad bull ultimate spring guide 5. Spring- Matrix 120% m90 spring (280-340) 6. Air nozzle- Matrix high performance air nozzle 7. Cylinder- Lonex stainless steel cylinder
|
|
|
Post by Pagan on Mar 16, 2014 18:28:33 GMT -5
|
|
Hogs Tooth *7.62*
New Member
I push peter, more sweeter, and more completer than any peter pusher around
Posts: 39
|
Post by Hogs Tooth *7.62* on Mar 16, 2014 19:01:54 GMT -5
pagan, I also had the idea to maybe replicate a mk18 after an op that has occurred over seas but I don't really know of an op that has used it. I think that would tell a better tale rather than me picking things out.
|
|
|
Post by Pagan on Mar 16, 2014 19:09:53 GMT -5
pagan, I also had the idea to maybe replicate a mk18 after an op that has occurred over seas but I don't really know of an op that has used it. I think that would tell a better tale rather than me picking things out. Mk18s are issued weapons, you're not picking anything out. The thread I linked, had you read it has links to where to buy the items needed. Hell it even has a picture of all the issued accessories: So, please explain how you'd just be picking things out?
|
|
Hogs Tooth *7.62*
New Member
I push peter, more sweeter, and more completer than any peter pusher around
Posts: 39
|
Post by Hogs Tooth *7.62* on Mar 16, 2014 19:30:12 GMT -5
I meant picking out accessories that were used on an mk18 during and op to replicate what was used.
|
|
|
Post by Pagan on Mar 16, 2014 19:35:24 GMT -5
I meant picking out accessories that were used on an mk18 during and op to replicate what was used. Well, seeing as you have no idea what Op it was, how should we know? As I said before, do research. Find pictures of what it is you are looking for. If you don't even know what you're looking for, how are we supposed to tell you what to get? There are LITERALLY hundreds of posts and pictures of MK18s on the internet. I'll state this again: MK18s are an issued weapon. More than likely, the person using the weapon you are trying to replicate, was using the issued accessories as well. So, find a picture of what you want to replicate, look at the picture I just posted and match them up.
|
|
Hogs Tooth *7.62*
New Member
I push peter, more sweeter, and more completer than any peter pusher around
Posts: 39
|
Post by Hogs Tooth *7.62* on Mar 17, 2014 0:11:58 GMT -5
Pagan, Initially all I meant was to ask for the correct looking parts. I just bought everything I need to build the gun and now this is where the pic would come in handy. The only issued items I'm really looking to attach is a working PEQ, a holo, and a fore grip.
|
|
|
Post by Pagan on Mar 17, 2014 2:05:02 GMT -5
Again, if you don't have the picture how are we to know what it is you are looking for?
Looking at the picture above I see:
Peq= Peq15 Holographic sight= EoTech 553 Fore grip= KAC or Tango Down
Now based on just a few pictures I've seen in a quick google search, there are a few difference. I've seen Xps sights, Grip pod and rvg grips.
That why I keep saying unless you find or provide a picture there is no way we can tell what the person was using.
If you're trying to replicate something you have to have a foundation to build it from. If you want to have a MK18ish rifle, go with what ever you want one it.
|
|
|
Post by Deacon on Mar 17, 2014 5:26:31 GMT -5
Pagan, Initially all I meant was to ask for the correct looking parts. I just bought everything I need to build the gun and now this is where the pic would come in handy. The only issued items I'm really looking to attach is a working PEQ, a holo, and a fore grip. Do you have a link to the things you bought? I'd love to help you build a "Mk18." Just so you know there have been thousands of "OP"s over in the sandbox. Most of them that involve a "Mk18" are going to be classified for a very long time. All you'll be able to find is pictures of Sailors, Marines, Airmen and Soldiers using them. Being part of a Sopmod kit the MK18 is issued "Standard" Accessories that are tailored around each individual mission. Then there are deviations that the "Operator" for lack of a better broad term will use. There are quite a few more accessories that are in another increment that further widens the use of acceptable accessories as well. I'm pretty sure that it hasn't been fully made public yet.
|
|
Hogs Tooth *7.62*
New Member
I push peter, more sweeter, and more completer than any peter pusher around
Posts: 39
|
Post by Hogs Tooth *7.62* on Mar 17, 2014 7:43:19 GMT -5
Deacon, I will put links next to the items I have listed up above. I think I'm just going to add whatever looks cool. I don't think I'm going to put a magnified scope on due to the gun having a CQB length barrel so it would be unnecessary, although I am considering some form of an EO-Tech. I'll also be adding internal ideas as well shortly for basically a whole gearbox revamp.
|
|
|
Post by Deacon on Mar 17, 2014 12:54:24 GMT -5
Base-G&P m4 AEG Challenge kit (seal team 6)-144.99Rails-DD MK18 9.5 inch dark earth rails-110.00 Stock-Matrix Tan Crane Stock with Buffer-35.00
Outer Barrel-Madbull 10.3 inch Outer Barrel-41.00
Hop-Up-Stock G&P Unit-18.00
Inner Barrel-Lonex 6.03 247mm (I picked this because I have never tried a Lonex barrel)-23.40
Gas Block-G&P low-pro gas block type B-14.00Total for all of that nonsense: 286.39 (excluding the rail.) 396.39 including the rail. G&P MK18 CQBR Go with this + DD Mk18 9.5" Rail. All you have to do at this point is swap out the rail.
If you want me to piece together for you a PROPER Mk18 built from PARTS. I will do that for you below.
Proper "MK18 Mod 1" Build:EXTERNALSReceiver: G&P Mk18 Reciever w/ proper Colt Trades (125.00)Gas Block: G&P Low Pro Gas Block (15.00)Gas Tube: Carbine Length Gas Tube (8.00)Outer Barrel: Daniel Defense 10.3" Barrel (41.00)Buffer Tube: Generic Buffer Tube (16.00)Stock: SOPMOD FDE Stock (non brown color.) (30.00)Sling Mount: CQD Sling Mount (10.00)Motor Grip: M4 Grip (24.99)Rail System: Madbull Daniel Defense Mk18 9.5 (110.00)Total: 380Internals: Gearbox: G&P 8mm Complete Gearbox (76.50)Motor: JG M41 Blue (34.40) Best motor on the market.Hop Up: G&P 1 Piece Hop-up set (18.00)Barrel: Matrix Prometheus Style 6.03 STEEL TBB. (30.00) much less prone to flex than the brass or aluminum.Total: 158.90Accessories & OpticsAimpoint Comp M2 Replica (48.00) Spectre Dr 1X-4X Replica (140.00) EOTech 551 or 553 or EXPS3-0 You'll have to find on your own. I have my reasons I will not suggest clones. The rest of the stuff you can find on your own. I provided you with a few options on how you want to go about a. making your own "mk18" or b. Using a pre-built Mk18 and adding on a rail. (Cost effective.) now for external accessories 1. Sights (EO-Tech or T1?) T1 is NOT Kosher. The only things Kosher are: EOTech 551, EOTECH SU231(553) in FDE, Aimpoint Comp M2. Trijicon ACOG, Elcan Spectre DR in FDE. Some newer Naval Special Warfare(Crane supplied units) Are now running the SU-231a or EXPS3-0 in FDE. Anything other than this is NOT MK18 acceptable.2. Fore Grip (Avengers m900 0r MF react mag grip?) The MFT React grip is NOT Mk18 Kosher.3. Rail Covers (Ladder or Panels) At the end of next week I will be purchasing pretty much every part in the gear box so here are some ideas
Leave the stock G&P Gearbox as it is. They're one of the best stock boxes on the market. Upgrade it when it breaks. Use the money you saved towards a. The Gun or b. Kosher accessories. 1. Gears- Guarder HI-Torque gears 2. Piston- Mad bull PX-02 3. Piston head- Matrix CNC aluminum double ring head 4. Guide- Mad bull ultimate spring guide 5. Spring- Matrix 120% m90 spring (280-340) 6. Air nozzle- Matrix high performance air nozzle 7. Cylinder- Lonex stainless steel cylinder
|
|
ctres
New Member
Posts: 955
|
Post by ctres on Mar 17, 2014 20:02:13 GMT -5
FYI T1s have been seen in use by various units using the block II accessory kit though I'm pretty sure they are private purchases. Also EXPS 3s have been seen with plenty of units under SOCOM other than NSW.
|
|