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Post by Puma1 on Feb 26, 2014 20:30:42 GMT -5
So guys, I'm doing a college paper on why airsoft should be left alone by the government, nationally or internationally.
I'm mainly questioning the thought process on SB 199 in California.
Keep in mind that all guns, receivers, handgaurds, stocks, and almost all externals would have to be recolored to fit the "replica" gun standards CA currently has.
So here's my question for you: How many people would stop buying from places like Airsoft GI (Yes, I'm aware of their East Coast store), Evike, Airsplat and the like if the bill was enacted? If you had the choice to shift your business somewhere else rather than deal with the color switch, would you? And Lastly, do you feel that it would practically destroy California's relatively strong hold on Airsoft related items?
I'm looking mainly for yes and No answers, although discussion is always welcome.
Thanks guys, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
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Post by Kick on Feb 26, 2014 20:47:31 GMT -5
Really, the best part about the replicas, in my opinion, are the fact of how realistic they look. I would refuse to buy from anywhere affected by the bill's color switch.
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Post by Joker on Feb 26, 2014 21:44:35 GMT -5
I'd prefer to switch to somewhere else to buy a replica like Airsoft Atlanta or possibly somewhere outside of the US. Also, it would most definitely destroy the large airsoft businesses in California since they will lose tons of profits. Less people would be attracted to the sport since most players choose airsoft over paintball due to the realistic look of the guns and it makes them feel operator. If you take the realistic feel away, you will be taking away a large number of players (mainly MILSIM players IMO).
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Post by RUST on Feb 27, 2014 0:42:20 GMT -5
Now would the color switch apply to guns they sell to other people outside of California? Because they do have a color painting service for in the UK/Europe that do not have permits to own guns without being painted bright colors, so it could be the case for others outside the state of California. The people in california would purchase their guns and have to get them painted, but evike and ASGi could still potentially ship guns to other states without having to paint them. Also if they had to send every gun sold painted a bright color that would mean that manufacturers would have to sell the guns to evike and stores alike already painted, which would drive them away and cause the distributors to go out of business. And if they did have to send all guns painted brightly no matter what state you live in I would most certainly find other places to get guns, because i dont want to have to own a bright ugly gun, or have to paint it either. www.evike.com/products/25511/ This is what im referring to, which at $50 a lot of people wouldnt be able to play any more because that is a hefty price tag to put on people just to have their guns painted an ugly green or orange color.
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Post by Gunny87 on Feb 27, 2014 9:29:27 GMT -5
Since you are asking as this is theoretical until SB-199 passes in California, as a consumer, I would continue to buy airsoft accessories from airsoft retailers in California but not purchase airsoft guns. Then I would purchase airsoft guns from retailers outside of California, or from oversees retailers. Most likely from an HK based retailer.
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Post by X on Feb 27, 2014 9:42:38 GMT -5
Something worth noting though is that most retailers would probably pull out of California and move their entire business somewhere else. If guns make up a large chunk of their sales I would think that they would just move east instead of eliminating that portion of their business.
Personally I have no loyalty to any retailer. I will purchase from the cheapest reputable retailer regardless of location. If the California retailers move then that makes no difference, if they close then I'll just shop elsewhere. I've never felt like California shops were better than any other shop. Oh and if it isn't clear, hell no I'm not buying a paintsoft gun.
To answer RUST;
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Post by Puma1 on Feb 27, 2014 9:53:16 GMT -5
Awesome. I'm pretty much in the same thought process. If it does pass, I'll probably go through Airsoft Atlanta or some of our non-Californian based companies.
Does anyone think this bill will actually pass?
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Post by Ogre on Feb 27, 2014 10:35:15 GMT -5
No, there is too much support against it, and not enough support for it out side of the politicians.
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Post by RUST on Feb 27, 2014 10:50:40 GMT -5
Well if it does pass a lot of businesses are going to have to up root their whole operations and head towards us, a ton of players will have to either get rid of their guns or get them painted and deal with having it look like one of those crosman zombie guns, and if it does pass paintball will probably become very popular in california.
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Post by Gunny87 on Feb 27, 2014 13:42:42 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with this bill at all, however does the legislation only account for the sale of new airsoft guns if passed? Or does this bill intend to force existing owners of airsoft guns to modify their guns to comply with the law?
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Post by RUST on Feb 27, 2014 14:56:24 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with this bill at all, however does the legislation only account for the sale of new airsoft guns if passed? Or does this bill intend to force existing owners of airsoft guns to modify their guns to comply with the law? I believe it will force owners to change their guns they already own. On a few airsoft facebook groups people from california keep saying that if the bill passes every player in california will be a criminal for owning non painted guns. This whole thing just seems like a small step to bring gun bans back into the media. It makes me sick that these people can't just leave every other american alone just because a few people shot up unarmed public places, and because one kid got shot for aiming an airsoft gun at police. And yes these events are tragic and unnecessary, but they shouldn't be a reason for politicians to stomp on the rights of every other law abiding citizen.
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Post by X on Feb 27, 2014 16:56:43 GMT -5
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Post by ishkaboom on Feb 27, 2014 17:57:34 GMT -5
I strongly advise against writing a school paper having to do with anything related to firearms or replica firearms. In a world where an individual can be suspended from a public institution for biting a piece of pizza into the shape of a gun, this is not a good selection. I would like to say that the vast majority of collegiate professors are very liberal and may show bias as well as label you as "the gun kid".
I know this is your hobby, (it's one of mine too) but so is porn, and unless the assignment is to write a shock paper or a paper that will trigger emotional responses by people, it may be best to just keep this part of your life personal.
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Post by Squirrel on Feb 28, 2014 8:09:37 GMT -5
"A nonfiring collector’s replica that is historically significant, and is offered for sale in conjunction with a wall plaque or presentation case."
Dear Airsoft GI: I would like your finest cardboard presentation plaque with my historically significant M4.
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Post by RUST on Feb 28, 2014 13:43:37 GMT -5
"A nonfiring collector’s replica that is historically significant, and is offered for sale in conjunction with a wall plaque or presentation case." Dear Airsoft GI: I would like your finest cardboard presentation plaque with my historically significant M4. That is some funny shit!
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