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Post by Gimpalong on Feb 11, 2014 9:21:25 GMT -5
It sounds like his Dad is a bit sentimental about that uniform and maybe should tuck it away in a closet or something.
Camo, especially M81 woodland BDUs or DCUs, is extremely cheap. I'd suggest that your friend just go out and pick-up a pair of used BDUs at a local store. That way he has his own uniform and isn't trashing something his Dad has held on to for 20 years.
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Post by Ogre on Feb 11, 2014 9:30:30 GMT -5
His dad isn't really in his life (I don't understand the situation, he lives with his grandparents) so I don't know why he has his dads uniform, anyways. I will suggest that to him. I would let him borrow mine but he is 120 pounds of twig, so I would be to big for him.
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Post by Ogre on Feb 11, 2014 9:30:59 GMT -5
His dad isn't really in his life (I don't understand the situation, he lives with his grandparents) so I don't know why he has his dads uniform, anyways. I will suggest that to him. I would let him borrow mine but he is 120 pounds of twig, so I would be to big for him.
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Post by slippy on Feb 11, 2014 11:25:23 GMT -5
Double post. Anyway I understand but my thoughts on it remain the same. As Gimpalong stated Woodloand and DCU tops can be had on the southside of twenty bucks normally. There's a multitude of places online that sell it or you can take a road trip to the fantasy land of General Jim's Surplus down in Clare. I hope he understands the situation with how vets feel but it is what it is.
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Post by Mosin on Feb 11, 2014 11:54:06 GMT -5
I'd advise him wearing a different top. If he's going out to the range with his Dad, or his Dad is presently at the field next to him to be able to clear it up on the spot, then it'd be one thing. The problem with this is nine times out of ten the guy that is busted for wearing unauthorized items on his uniform claims that it is "honoring my ______" when in all actuality, there may be a chance your _______ was a Navy SEAL helo door gunner in Vietnam with 1st Marine Division, but I seriously doubt it.
I'll go back to my original point on the subject, and that is this: If airsoft as a collective claims it is honoring past, present, and future Military service members by wearing these items, why would they [airsofters] wear something that deliberately upsets the majority of Active Duty and Prior service Military? If you're building a loadout, nine times out of ten I can tell what unit/element you are trying to depict, without you having to wear the U.S. nametapes and the actual unit patches. Those things are reserved for the dudes that earned it in blood, sweat, and tears.
Although his Father says it's alright, he needs to know that there come times when he's confronted about it, and to simply avoid it, I'd say don't wear it. If a different field host says something different, I'll honor their wishes (after I tell them why I believe it's wrong), and then probably never play there again.
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Post by Ogre on Feb 11, 2014 12:13:12 GMT -5
I'd advise him wearing a different top. If he's going out to the range with his Dad, or his Dad is presently at the field next to him to be able to clear it up on the spot, then it'd be one thing. The problem with this is nine times out of ten the guy that is busted for wearing unauthorized items on his uniform claims that it is "honoring my ______" when in all actuality, there may be a chance your _______ was a Navy SEAL helo door gunner in Vietnam with 1st Marine Division, but I seriously doubt it. I'll go back to my original point on the subject, and that is this: If airsoft as a collective claims it is honoring past, present, and future Military service members by wearing these items, why would they [airsofters] wear something that deliberately upsets the majority of Active Duty and Prior service Military? If you're building a loadout, nine times out of ten I can tell what unit/element you are trying to depict, without you having to wear the U.S. nametapes and the actual unit patches. Those things are reserved for the dudes that earned it in blood, sweat, and tears. Although his Father says it's alright, he needs to know that there come times when he's confronted about it, and to simply avoid it, I'd say don't wear it. If a different field host says something different, I'll honor their wishes (after I tell them why I believe it's wrong), and then probably never play there again. Thanks for the Info, I'll be sure to bring it up to him.
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Post by Foxy on Feb 18, 2014 23:23:48 GMT -5
I have a quick question related to this. I have a friend starting Airsoft, all he really has is camo and it was his dads when he was in the Airforce during desert storm. It still has all the unit patches, branch name, and rank on it, which he understands how it can offend past and current service members, but his dad doesn't want him to remove any of the patches. He doesn't want to offend anyone but he also wants to respect his fathers wishes. Any advice you be good to resolve this issue, as it is kind of a moral grey area. Honestly, I'd take colored duck tape and cover it. That way its covered and still intact. This is only if he has his heart set on using his dad's old uniform. Like others have suggested, I would just pick up a new set to use.
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