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Post by ctres on Jan 7, 2014 17:27:39 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone else says but there is NO reason to buy Condor, Emerson, TMC or most other replica gear (at least pouches) when you can get eagle gear for dirt cheap on eBay. I'm not saying the other stuff doesn't work I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to buy something fake when you can get the real thing for a comparable price. Just search ebay for eagle industries, sflcs, mlcs, rlcs, or fsbe and you will find loads of gear for cheap, and that is mostly SOF stuff you are finding. GI stuff will be even cheaper and still good even if it isn't as "cool".
You can get an eagle RRV for pretty cheap now, and it can be run as either a chest rig or a plate carrier so that might be a good starting point. That + some pouches should cost you $200 tops and you will have a top of the line rig rather than some clone junk that you will be sick of in a few months when you realize the deal you missed out on. Trust me, just a few years ago eagle gear prices were sky high on ebay because it was the hot stuff then, it's still just as good but there is newer stuff that people want so the demand has dropped while the supply has increased causing the prices to bottom out.
Also, 12 mags or anything north of 6-8 mags on your carrier is flat out excessive. I'd say anything more than 6 and you should be thinking about some sort of pack if you are really going to be in sustained firefights or far away from a respawn for hours on end. If you are in a situation where you actually need 10+mags (pretty rare except maybe at larger milsims) then there are probably other pieces of kit that should be taking priority within reach on your carrier. A small pack allows you to take a lot of your load off your shoulders when not needed, such as in situations where you need lots of ammo but not within immediate reach, such as when you are hunkered down protecting an objective. You can then shuffle spent mags into your pack and put new ones in pouches on your kit where they will be easily accessible.
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Post by Knief on Jan 7, 2014 20:11:13 GMT -5
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Post by Knife on Jan 7, 2014 20:57:34 GMT -5
MBSS's suck, don't buy one. There's is a plethora of good advice in this thread already, so I'll leave it at that.
Edit: Unless you're doing an impression, they still suck but were used a quite a bit.
For radios, get an icom F4s or similar for something reliable.
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Post by Gimpalong on Jan 8, 2014 9:17:19 GMT -5
Knief just did a great job pointing out that there are a lot of great "real steel" products that cost the same or less than replica gear. These are not only built better, but also offer a better return on your investment if you choose to sell them on down the road.
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Post by Cats (Doom) on Jan 9, 2014 3:00:31 GMT -5
Pineview Surplus generally only has ALICE and on rare occasions some MOLLE compatible gear. I'd reccomend them more for uniforms and oddities rather than gear.
EDIT: I also second the EBay love. Buying used real steel gear will often cost you the same or less than clones (excluding highly collectable items) and often retain it's value much better for when you sell it. I say "when" because as it was mentioned before, most of us go through many loadouts before finding the "right one" for our individual needs; not to mention you may have to change things if you join a team with strict gear requirements or you decide to do an impression.
There's a lot being said here about plate carriers and armor systems, but if ventilation and comfort are key you should also consider a chest rig as a possibility.
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Post by X on Jan 9, 2014 20:30:14 GMT -5
I am most likely going to be playing about 3 days a week this summer so ventilation is really a big key at the moment because even if its not comfortable I will eventually digress. 3 days a week?!? Sent from my XT1080 using proboards
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Post by Hogs Tooth *7.62* on Jan 9, 2014 22:37:51 GMT -5
I don't think a comment like that was necessary, I am basically just starting to play at a more competitive level. 3 days is a lot to start at with 85+ degree days.
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Post by X on Jan 10, 2014 7:07:56 GMT -5
I wasn't hating. That's the most I've ever heard of anyone playing. That's a lot of airsoft. Once a week is crazy to me. Hence my reaction to 3. I play like maybe 6 -10 times a year.
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Post by Cats (Doom) on Jan 10, 2014 21:39:00 GMT -5
Sorry for contributing to the off-topicness but I also had the same thought when I read that. Not that it's a bad thing, but I just can't imagine how you would find that many games, especially in northern Michigan. If you do find that many, please let me know where.
Most people I've met are like X and only go to a few big games a year, or are weekend recc players who play once every 1-3 weeks at the same field.
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Post by Ogre on Jan 10, 2014 21:51:49 GMT -5
That brings up a lot of memories of me playing shirtless at OP's. Props for your devotion. Hottest game I played (about 90) was August of 2012 down at a rec game outside of Grand Rapids. Ran around in only my pants and a tactical vest. Earned the nickname Rambo that day because of that . Back on topic, Knief is right on the money. I remember a similar thread about a year or so ago where I believe either Knief or Gimp posted a link to a cheap plate carried that came with a ton of mag pouches and stuff for ~$115, which ment you were getting the actual vest it's self for like 30. The thread and link escape me though.
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Post by Coldwave on Jan 10, 2014 23:55:36 GMT -5
Hottest game I played (about 90) What was NL this past year? 100 something? Talk about major suck...
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Post by X on Jan 11, 2014 9:14:17 GMT -5
I think it was closer to 90. NL3 on the other hand had a heat index of 107.
Speaking of heat make sure you have a sizeable hydration bladder. If you're going to be playing all summer that's probably more important than ANYTHING else.
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Post by Ogre on Jan 11, 2014 16:48:41 GMT -5
I think it was closer to 90. NL3 on the other hand had a heat index of 107. Speaking of heat make sure you have a sizeable hydration bladder. If you're going to be playing all summer that's probably more important than ANYTHING else. Sent from my XT1080 using proboards And make sure you drink more than your thirst reflex tells you too, you can feel fine but still get dehydrated. (this is how a lot of elderly people get dehydrated due to the thirst reflex being diminished with age) Forcing fluids is something that is easy to forget during an OP. I've made that mistake multiple times, the last thing you want is a massive heat headache in the middle of a firefight, or worse for that mater, I've had a guy collapse from heat exhaustion at Jackal III and we had to end the game for about an hour and a half to get him medical treatment. Luckily he was alright. EDIT: Found the Link to that chest Rig Knief posted awhile back: www.shootercbgear.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_50_51_95&products_id=690
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Post by Guns McBen on Jan 14, 2014 18:41:41 GMT -5
I'm starting to try to move into the MILSIM side of things I know we've been suggesting a lot of chest rigs, and for super hot days, those are absolutely a great way to go, but I wanted to offer something else that might whet your burgeoning milsim appetite. www.awsin.com/proddetail.asp?prod=52813That is the AWS OCPC. Essentially a 6094 to your door for $160. Shipping can take some time; I ordered mine in late April, and it showed up the first week of July. They just don't have the manufacturing capacity that others do, and a single person's order might not be their top priority. That being said, this is the best piece of gear I own, and completely worth the wait. It's practically indestructible, and even when it's loaded down, you can barely feel it. Not to mention, it looks the part. Now the drawback. As comfortable as it is, it isn't the most breathable thing on the planet. After taking it off on hot days, my combat shirts are less than dry. However, it doesn't feel hot. Source also makes a great hydration bladder (2L) that replaces the rear plate, so you don't have to strap a pouch on if you don't want to. Also, AWS has a one time overrun sale going on right now for their zippered split-front chest rig (in multicam! (sploosh!)). Normally runs $100, right now selling for $68.88. www.awsin.com/proddetail.asp?prod=50680These guys make some seriously high quality gear, and I think they're worth checking out. EDIT: make sure you drink more than your thirst reflex tells you to Yup. If you start feeling thirsty, it's already too late. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate.
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