Foreign Camo Question

[Dallas]

I've been considering buying a foreign camo set for modification purposes. The three main types I've looked at are German Flecktarn or Wustentarn/Tropentarn, Danish M84, or Polish K93. All I really need to know is whether any of these camos would even be accepted in most MiA events before making an investment.

Thanks!

[Impulse]

Europeans didn't make a lot of questionable patterns. The german options are easily sorted, M84 is a definite woodland pattern, but i can't find a definite image of the Polish pattern in a quarter second of google searching.

[TheEnd]

Flecktarn is my favorite camo and I have only been able to use my set once outside of REC games. Most games don't allow it which is pretty annoying as it is clearly green or tan and not an "in between" like multicam.

I've noticed a trend of people showing up in whatever they want and not being hassled about it. You could probably get away with it, but in the end it's up to the host.

[Dallas]

Here's the Polish camo, also known as Pantera.

[Bubba]

Finding a non reproduction m84 uniform is pretty hard. The real uniforms for sale that I've found were for cold weather, then the summer uniforms were reproduction and looked terrible.

I'd go with flektarn.

[magnus]

Flecktarn all the way! Here's my setup -
Flecktarn summer BDU's (pick your brand and size)
Patrol cap/ PASGT helmet with Fleck cover
Black Rothco Jungle Boots
Random Patches (German flag, medic patch, blood type, etc.
Tactical Vest (not MOLLE, sorry) :
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0046VCI1S/ref=mw_dp_img?is=l&qid=1376536135&sr=8-2
Another option -
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005MYAWUC/ref=mw_dp_img_6?in=6&is=&qid=1376487593&sr=8-1
Operator Gloves:
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ADX7S40/ref=mp_s_a_1_22?qid=1376450468&sr=8-22&pi=SL75#
I still need to buy a decent plate carrier and a decent G36 variant. The Ares G36KV is where I would go... IF I HAD MONEY THAT IS!

[magnus]

However, if money isn't an issue for you, go to flecktarn.co.uk. They have a lot of good gear there that is often better than what actual German companies will sell you in terms of good gear (apparently Germany has laws about camo and gear). However, it is costly. A standard issue IdZ vest can cost over 200 pounds,, and a KSK special forces vest on there is in the upper 500's. Remember, this is in British POUNDS, so it is about only 2/3 of the actual USD price.

[Dallas]

I'm really liking M84, but finding a genuine set with just a regular coat and not a full on winter jacket is a pain in the buttocks. If anyone can help me source one, that would be great.

[Impulse]

Took a look around and it appears that they're not available (at least through legal channels.)

The issue setup for the Danes is the combat trousers and jacket that is quite easy to find on ebay and such. That's the heavy jacket you're looking at. As Denmark is a fairly cold weather country it makes sense for this to be useable in summer. There have been true summer jackets issued (for the Balkans, namely) but since these are operationally issued it appears that they are recovered post-deployment and it is illegal for soldiers to put them on the market.

So issue summer uniform, no. There are some reproductions if you want to go that route, naturally they are not as good (and the Danish original kit is, of course, very well made.)

[Dallas]

Seems like I'd have to go with an OD top or relegate it to a winter loadout.

[Thor]

I'm gonna guess you didn't see my thread regarding this: miairsoft.proboards.com/thread/25344/noob-camouflage-guide

Personally, unless you're going for a specific impression (KSK or something else European), there's not much sense in buying them unless you just like collecting camo and having a large variety. You're much better off sticking to what is available commonly. That said, if you're set on getting something different, my guide above breaks down pretty clearly where each would go. I think the only one I don't have is Danish M84, as it's not common, but that would pretty clearly be a green-side camo.

[Dallas]

I've seen the guide, but I had totally forgotten in existed. That being said, I have heard a lot of stories about foreign camos simply being turned away for not being commonly recognized patterns. Although, I would assume this is uncommon being that the patterns in question are extremely rare in use outside of Europe.

I've always wanted to do a GROM impression with Pantera, though.

Starting a camo collection at some point would be cool, but it's a bit far down the list of my needs and wants. Seeing that patterns like M90 and M84 are practically worth their weight in gold, this would be a pretty big financial drain.

[Thor]

Really the only foreign patterns I think I've ever seen at games are DPM (woodland and desert), Flecktarn/Tropentarn, some Russian stuff, and maybe once Cadpat. And that's roughly in order of least to most rare. Anything else is going to be a pain in the ass as far as finding it and then justifying the cost. If you really want something different, you could always look into one of the newer non-military camos, like ATACS or Kryptek. Kryptek appears to be the new cool guy gucci thing now, like Multicam and AOR1/2 were a few years back. But, that will probably cost more than you really are looking to spend as well.

[Dallas]

Yeah... Kryptek is about as distant as a dream right now, although I would love to have a set. A-TACS is an option for me, but this thread was intended to be about foreign camos specifically. I'm really into western European military tech so I was planning on making a mix of 'Murican and European styles.