Vic (Rattlehead)
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Post by Vic (Rattlehead) on Aug 2, 2013 21:20:19 GMT -5
Yeah, the RL-8 is just a more premium looking Combat Machine. I'd suggest going with a full length M16, as opposed to the carbine length M4, for an AR15 style DMR. I can't tell you much about DMRs or sniper rifles in general, but Ranger, a frequent poster on sniper rifle related galleries, knows pretty much everything about them. Here's a link to his profile: miairsoft.proboards.com/user/2781Thanks for the heads up! I'll look that up, and maybe I'll try and see what threads Ranger's involved in, see if I can get some valuable info! I'm leaning more towards a support gunner role, but I'm still interested in a SDM role.
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Post by Vic (Rattlehead) on Aug 7, 2013 8:33:54 GMT -5
ranger What would be a good beginner SDM rifle? I'm trying to keep this thread alive, since once I'm back from vacation I'll have way too many questions to start a new thread haha.
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Post by Vic (Rattlehead) on Aug 11, 2013 9:07:43 GMT -5
Bump? I was gonna ask, to anyone who is still paying attention, if it would be frowned upon by milsim enthusiasts if I used a G36(standard or compact), and used it with a C-mag as a MK36 LMG?
I wouldn't do this for my first gun, this is something I'd either get this winter or at some point next summer, but I'm looking for some opinions on the subject.
I've been pondering the idea of playing a support role(actually I would love to do so), and it seems to me the cheapest option would be a G36 with a high cap C-mag. Would that be a good idea? IF not I was considering a M27 IAR(H&K 416+IAR kit), but that's a bit more expensive. Any support gunners out there with an opinion on the subject?
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Post by Phantom Reaper on Aug 11, 2013 9:21:52 GMT -5
You have two options for an MG36, Any Regular G36E (like the one JG makes) as long has you have the Carrying Handle w/ Integrated Red Dot Sight & 3.5X Scope which most unlicensed G36's don't come with. If you want to step it up a bit you can get the newer Ares G36V which since its licensed by H&K comes with the carry handle and all the V line G36's have a side folding Crane Stock instead of the standard one, then all you need is a Beta Mag, I have the CV and KV both are great so if you want a G36 Ares is the best it gets. Just keep in mind Mags are more expensive then M4 compatible mags. Hell G36 style Emags are like $28 a mag.
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Post by Dallas on Aug 11, 2013 11:09:10 GMT -5
Not a support gunner, but you can get an ARES G36 from Redwolf that qualifies as an MG36 out of the box. redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/AEG_AEP_ARES_ARES_AS36_AEG_NEW_Version.htmAll it needs is a C-Mag and you're gold as far as bare minimum requirements go. Internal upgrades would be in order to make it worth it's salt, seeing that it's just a stock AEG, but I'm not sure exactly what's considered 'good' for an LMG internally.
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Post by Phantom Reaper on Aug 11, 2013 14:27:29 GMT -5
Not a support gunner, but you can get an ARES G36 from Redwolf that qualifies as an MG36 out of the box. redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/AEG_AEP_ARES_ARES_AS36_AEG_NEW_Version.htmAll it needs is a C-Mag and you're gold as far as bare minimum requirements go. Internal upgrades would be in order to make it worth it's salt, seeing that it's just a stock AEG, but I'm not sure exactly what's considered 'good' for an LMG internally. Thats pretty much what I suggested only mine is the G36EV instead of just the E. but yeah a full size G36 with the Carry handle with scope & Red dot and C mag you're good to go.
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Post by Dallas on Aug 11, 2013 14:36:38 GMT -5
I had no idea that they had a G36EV, and I didn't see the link there initially. :P It looks pretty sick!
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Post by Phantom Reaper on Aug 11, 2013 14:59:53 GMT -5
I had no idea that they had a G36EV, and I didn't see the link there initially. It looks pretty sick! I have nothing else to say indeed it does, Red Wolf seems to be the only retailer that sells it sadly.
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Post by Gimpalong on Aug 11, 2013 18:57:07 GMT -5
Bump? I was gonna ask, to anyone who is still paying attention, if it would be frowned upon by milsim enthusiasts if I used a G36(standard or compact), and used it with a C-mag as a MK36 LMG? I've been pondering the idea of playing a support role(actually I would love to do so), and it seems to me the cheapest option would be a G36 with a high cap C-mag. Would that be a good idea? IF not I was considering a M27 IAR(H&K 416+IAR kit), but that's a bit more expensive. Any support gunners out there with an opinion on the subject? The MG36 isn't usually counted as a SAW at milsim games since it's not actually an issued SAW in any military service. Yes, I've seen the photos of the G36 with C-mag in Afghanistan ( Here), but that is more the exception than the rule. In general, the use of the MG36 is at the discretion of the event host. So some events may allow its use in the SAW role, while others may disallow it. The same goes for the M27 IAR. If you want a cheap and "legal" SAW, you might check out an RPK. That said, an M36 would be pretty cool! In addition, if you're planning on getting into the SAW role you should also become familiar with the internals of whichever SAW you select as you'll probably need to conduct maintenance from time to time to replace worn out pistons, etc.
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Post by Zorak on Aug 12, 2013 9:17:14 GMT -5
My rule of thumb is that only weapons with quick-change barrels should get box mags.
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Post by Dallas on Aug 12, 2013 12:35:53 GMT -5
My rule of thumb is that only weapons with quick-change barrels should get box mags. Technically, the G36 would qualify because it does have a quick change barrel. Then again, discretion of the host always gets priority in these instances.
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Post by Zorak on Aug 12, 2013 21:00:04 GMT -5
My understanding is that it's quick compared to an AR-15, which requires you pull the entire forend, but it still takes time and tools. A real machine gun works like a SAW, where you flip a latch and yank a handle and that sucker is gone.
In real lightweight machine guns, that feature is the only way to control barrel heating when firing sustained bursts. You get the barrel scorching hot, you spend 10 seconds swapping in the spare, you're back in the fight. That, in turn, means you can go cyclic in a bad spot without ruining the weapon or requiring a heavy barrel.
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Post by Dallas on Aug 12, 2013 22:59:43 GMT -5
Ah, I see what you mean. I'll do a bit more research on it, then.
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Vic (Rattlehead)
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Post by Vic (Rattlehead) on Aug 13, 2013 10:56:38 GMT -5
So, to summarize everyone's response, if it has a quick change barrel, it can be considered a SAW, but in the end, it is left to an event host's discretion. So I might as well go out and get an actual LMG, like a M249 or an RPK, because going the MK36 route seems to be full of uncertainty. Dammit, well. glad I asked instead of jumping in head first(even though it would've been next summer at LEAST).
Thanks for all the info guys! I also wanted to thank all the admins who have participated for, well, participating, and keeping this thread open! It's definitely been a lot of help with anything I've needed help with! Still on vacation, so sorry if the posts and far in between!
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Post by Gimpalong on Aug 13, 2013 11:39:55 GMT -5
Well, an MG36 is basically just the full-length G36 (18.9" full length barrel, 6-hole foregrip, dual optic, bipod) with a C-Mag. In reality, the MG36 was produced with a heavier barrel needed for SAW duty, but otherwise it's basically a full-size G36.
So, if you want a G36 that you might, from time to time, be able to use as a support weapon, then there's no reason not to pick one up.
Honestly, if you're truly interested in the support role, it might be better to pick up an MG36 or an RPK than, say, a M249. These guns are cheaper and lighter than an M249, M60, etc and will give you an introduction to the support role without breaking the bank (or your back).
If after you've skirmished in a support role for a bit with these lighter rifles then you can decide if you want to commit to buying a traditional, full-size SAW like an M240, M249, M60, etc, etc.
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