Krutch
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Post by Krutch on Jul 15, 2012 14:18:45 GMT -5
Best gun for the money, and im sure MiA will back me up on that.
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Post by Bulletproof on Jul 15, 2012 14:54:45 GMT -5
I have 2 SIGs right now, one is my first gun. I honestly wish I had gotten a different first gun, this has been a relative pain in the ass. Multiple things have broken, and because it's a relatively rare gun, there are few parts and guides to how to fix it. I have been on my own, in the dark for a lot of the work I've done. The biggest issue with the SIG is actually disassembling it. The process is long and complicated, and with all the parts and screws you have to remove, you're very prone to lose something. The other thing is parts. They're much much MUCH harder to find than say M4, Ak or MP5 parts. In fact I need a parts gun if I want to have spare parts. Mags, on the other hand, didn't seem to be a problem for me. I found some MAG brand mids, bought 6, and haven't had a problem with mags since.
Seriously, though. It's been many a headache for everything. G&G CMs, either the AK, M4, or something at least relatively common, will be the best choice for you. I know it seems like everyone has an M4, but the best thing about the M4 is due to its popularity, there are lots of parts available. It shouldn't be hard to find some cool parts and make it unique. I used to think exactly the way you are now. Stuff hasn't turned out great for me (I won't elaborate). Don't let being unique get in the way of functionality. That is the best advice I can give you given your current situation. Buy a relatively common gun from a reliable brand and you will be glad you did.
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Post by ThompsonFTW on Jul 15, 2012 16:32:25 GMT -5
Your kidding right? The other two guns he mentioned are NOT that hard to upgrade. In fact in some aspects they are easier to upgrade than a m4. Both guns he mentioned (other than the m14 which is a pain in the ass...) are version 3 gearboxes. Version 3 gearboxes are just as easy to upgrade as version 2 gearboxes, In my opinion even easier... the only "rare" parts are the mags and a select few upgrade parts. (Airnozzle and possibly motor... haven't worked with a Sig.) For mags on the UMP I have heard surplus Thompson mag pouches work well.
Now if you really want to look at another gun I suggest anything CYMA above their 28 model. CYMAs AKs are very reliable and perform fairly well for the price.
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Post by Alex-(BM_5) on Jul 15, 2012 16:35:14 GMT -5
We are also talking mag's go look up what a box of m4 mags run then look at UMP mag's and G&G is much more reliable than any of the other mentioned brands.
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Post by Chubbs on Jul 15, 2012 16:42:41 GMT -5
The G&G combat machine is an excellent choice for a beginner gun. The only downfall no battery or charger on most I their gun packages.
Gun $140 Battery and a good smart charger $45 5-pack of plastic mid caps $30-$50
Pretty much everything you need to start playing overall a great deal CM's won't let you down.
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Post by ThompsonFTW on Jul 15, 2012 16:44:00 GMT -5
I would have to disagree. CYMA has proved that their m14 and AKs are very reliable along with the fact that they are much cheaper to upgrade further down the line. I know you guys are fans of G&G but to say they are more reliable than CYMA is not fair. CYMA is a great reliable brand. Also, great point on the mags. M4 mags will be cheaper... Well, sort of. By the time you grab some of those Pmags m4 lovers love you will be spending more. However, a box set of MAG mags would most likely be cheaper. I am not here to start flaming just giving a different view.
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Post by Bulletproof on Jul 15, 2012 16:55:44 GMT -5
I meant that installing the parts is a pain, due to the long and complicated disassembly. Many parts outside the gearbox are proprietary, and hard to find replacements for. I lost a small piece for the selector switch and have to have the part made using a 3D printer because I can't find it anywhere. Once it is taken down, it is a standard V3 gearbox. I won't deny that CYMA makes good AKs and M14s, but in most of our experiences, G&Gs have outperformed CYMAs out of the box. And, since most players here run M4s and to my knowledge CYMA doesn't make an M4, our forum has a lot of experience with the G&G CMs. I haven't had any experience with the CYMA AKs and M14s myself but from what I've heard and read, they seem to be very solid for the price.
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Post by gonzo342 on Jul 15, 2012 17:09:11 GMT -5
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Post by ThompsonFTW on Jul 15, 2012 17:21:10 GMT -5
I meant that installing the parts is a pain, due to the long and complicated disassembly. Many parts outside the gearbox are proprietary, and hard to find replacements for. I lost a small piece for the selector switch and have to have the part made using a 3D printer because I can't find it anywhere. Once it is taken down, it is a standard V3 gearbox. I won't deny that CYMA makes good AKs and M14s, but in most of our experiences, G&Gs have outperformed CYMAs out of the box. And, since most players here run M4s and to my knowledge CYMA doesn't make an M4, our forum has a lot of experience with the G&G CMs. I haven't had any experience with the CYMA AKs and M14s myself but from what I've heard and read, they seem to be very solid for the price. The reason that G&G outperforms CYMA is the bucking. Switch that for a systema bucking and your good to go. As to OPs last question I can't help since I don't live up north and I will let you guys handle that.
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Post by Dallas on Jul 15, 2012 17:21:55 GMT -5
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Post by gonzo342 on Jul 15, 2012 17:41:36 GMT -5
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Post by Alex-(BM_5) on Jul 15, 2012 17:43:11 GMT -5
You will not find anything at a retail store for that price due to retail markup.
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Post by gonzo342 on Jul 15, 2012 17:54:04 GMT -5
Ok but is a mark up of $130.00 common and, I am just trying to find a good deal. I mean if it is I will just buy online. I just prefer buying at a local shop, where I can go back to if some thing does not work right.
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Post by Alex-(BM_5) on Jul 15, 2012 17:58:02 GMT -5
If something doesn't work right when you get the gun most of the time the online retailer will take it back and give you a functioning one.
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Post by Gimpalong on Jul 15, 2012 18:16:37 GMT -5
pro-tip: buy what you think looks good and want to use in the field.
If you buy the gun that everyone recommends, but you hate, you still won't like it.
If you buy the gun that you want, you will like it for a month before buying your next airsoft gun, which you will like for a month until you buy your next airsoft gun, which you will like for a month until you buy your next airsoft gun, which you will like for a month until you buy your next airsoft gun...
You see where I'm going here?
You might as well buy what you you think you want/like, play with it for a while and if you still like it keep it, and if you don't, sell it off and buy something new.
That said, the Cyma SOCOM is neither a reasonable size nor light weight. I owned one for a hot minute, and it was fun, but big, even for the "short" version of the M14.
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