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Post by Krutch on Feb 20, 2012 22:16:45 GMT -5
Well I am in need of a new holster for my KWA ATP, I believe that it is Glock 17 holster compatible. Now I really like the Serpa, but I dont like how exposed to the elements the gun is. Such as the barrel sticking out the bottom. I have read many reviews about complications with the Serpa's opening mechanism. I also love the Safariland 6004, but I do not like the $130 price tag. Am I missing any other "plastic" companies? I know G-code exists but they are also very pricy. I really dont want to spend more than $60. I am looking for a hip or drop leg platform.
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Post by Crapshoot on Feb 20, 2012 22:26:04 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that you can custom make your own kydex holsters, and if it's Glock 17 compatible, than a Crye Gunclip might work, and that's only like $50 from their website.
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Post by Zdybel on Feb 20, 2012 22:27:54 GMT -5
Fobus holsters are pretty good.
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Post by Krutch on Feb 20, 2012 22:30:08 GMT -5
I have looked into the gun clip, my only problem is the protection factor, same as the Serpa. With the clip, most of the gun is exposed to the elements. I tend to get dirty when I play.
Edit- I will need to check out Fobus. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Post by Crapshoot on Feb 20, 2012 22:33:22 GMT -5
That's why guns can be disassembled .
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Post by Thor on Feb 20, 2012 23:40:24 GMT -5
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Post by TheEnd on Feb 21, 2012 16:10:44 GMT -5
While the serpa button jamming may be a concern for real steel and life or death situations, for airsoft I think it's a little over exaggerated. Sure it's possible, but unlikely, and should it happen, you won't die in airsoft. I could be wrong, but while reading around on other airsoft forums I don't see many posts about it happening. Obviously it's talked about a lot of real steel forums which is understandable.
I use a serpa for my 1911 and USP. I tend to get pretty muddy and dirty because I go prone a lot and so far my sidearms have been fine. They get muddy and dirty (my guns always do, part of the game) but have never jammed. When I go prone I rotate the serpa platform to the back of my leg to keep it off the ground, and when I go into tight places I rotate it to the front of my leg to stop it from hitting walls. It's important to make sure you get the right size serpa. For example a USPc serpa is too short for a full size USP and will have the slide poking out the front. I mostly play CQB and the serpa is great for that.
I went with the serpa because the serpa drop leg platform is the only one I have tried that doesn't move around on me. I also like the quick disconnect straps so i can move my holster from rig to rig, or change the serpa from pistol to pistol. I know other holsters have those same abilities (whatever that Safariland system is called can do the same thing) but the serpa works well for me and is pretty cheap. I tried a Safariland once but I didn't care for the thumb break and I liked the draw of the serpa better. That's something you will have to try and decide for yourself.
If you want to baby your pistol and give it the best protection I think a Safariland is best. The serpa is a good holster but it does leave the pistol pretty exposed.
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Post by Knife on Feb 21, 2012 17:15:32 GMT -5
I disagree with you on the Crye Gunclip Carl. It actually has a ton of retention if properly snapped in. It takes a pretty good twist to get it out, and its very difficult to do it without pulling the snap first. Out of the box, the Gunclip is actually too tight for a GBB Glock, and requires you dremel down a bit of material on the inside. Its more of a niche thing, and I definitely don't think it would fulfill lostparade's requirements.
I prefer the Safariland myself, and if you're still worried about shit getting in the bottom of it you can tape it up. If you do that, beware going in to water with it taped up, as water will get trapped in there. You also do not need to use the thumb break if you don't want to, mine had enough retention to easily hold my old WE 1911 without it. If you don't like the pricetag, hunt out a used one and you can easily get it sub 100.
I have a fobus for a G19? I think, and it fits my G17 like ass. The holster is pretty shitty itself, and I would avoid one.
When you say hip, do you mean something that would mount on to a riggers belt? Or just as another name for a dropleg panel? If so, that opens up a lot of options for Kydex stuff.
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Post by Krutch on Feb 21, 2012 17:47:09 GMT -5
Yes, by hip mounted I mean a paddle.
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Post by Kurt 19D on Feb 21, 2012 20:14:44 GMT -5
I use a Serpa for my 1911, and it did once jam on me during an airsoft game. While you may be right, a rare case, but did happen none the less. The holster was not abnormally dirty, maybe some dust. Whatever caused the lock up corrected itself and I was able to remove my pistol later in the game. Curious to see if it happens again. Very dangerous in a real steel situation, the most it will cost me is a walk back to respawn.
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Post by Sniper Wolf on Feb 22, 2012 0:47:04 GMT -5
I use a Serpa for my 1911, and it did once jam on me during an airsoft game. While you may be right, a rare case, but did happen none the less. The holster was not abnormally dirty, maybe some dust. Whatever caused the lock up corrected itself and I was able to remove my pistol later in the game. Curious to see if it happens again. Very dangerous in a real steel situation, the most it will cost me is a walk back to respawn. You very well may have gone to pull the weapon from it's holster before the button was fully depressed, a problem I've seen people run into quite frequently. The Serpa is a very fickle one, indeed but personally I love mine. And while admittedly not the best idea, what with all the horror stories of needing to pull a RS weapon and the holster not releasing it, I still carry my concealed pistol by way of a serpa. I've never had one malfunction on me, airsoft or RS (I've been using them for a very long time, with a variety of pistols), and mine have been submerged in water, caked in mud, loaded full of dirt and each time I went to pull it, broke leather (so to speak) clean and quickly. Am I going to tell you that the Serpa is the be all, end all holster? Hell no. If you can swing it (and if you're concerned with better protecting your pistol) then the safariland is without a doubt the far superior holster. But me personally? I have a hard time justifying a safariland for my toy pistol. I agree with Crapshoot, there's a reason they can be disassembled
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Post by Gimpalong on Feb 22, 2012 12:21:18 GMT -5
Just a brief aside about the Gunclip.
I'm a pretty short dude, and as a result I'm often forced to run drop-leg holsters because my PC or chest-rig interferes with drawing from a belt mounted holster. With the Gunclip, I can run it on my waist and draw from it without interface with my other gear because the Gunclip doesn't have a vertical draw, but rather a draw where the gun is pulled outward and away from the hip.
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Post by slim on Feb 22, 2012 12:41:54 GMT -5
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Post by Krutch on Feb 22, 2012 18:17:01 GMT -5
The problem is slim, that Safariland is not cheap....and people do not often sell them. I am keeping my eye on the one Thor posted in case it goes for super cheap.
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Post by Krutch on Mar 1, 2012 23:07:29 GMT -5
Just a little update. I purchased a Fobus holster because it was cheap. Apparently Fobus's G17 version does not fit my ATP, the slide is too wide. There is also the fact that the Fobus holster feels cheap as shit. I will be retuning it and buying a Serpa(which I am pretty sure fits).
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