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Post by Overkill on Dec 17, 2011 13:58:43 GMT -5
So, lately I have been rocking CQB arena on the east coast (of the country) with my KWA MP7. I would really like to get a nice optic on it, because while I feel that the iron sights are decent, I want something better. I've been having trouble deciding on an optic to use, and have looked at red-dots, reflex sights, etc. I would like some advice on how to best go about selecting a scope, and maybe some do's and don'ts, lessons learned, and brands to stay away from.
I know that a lot comes down to price, cosmetics, quality, etc. Those aren't the things I'm asking about, and am well aware of how to intelligently "shop". What I do not have is the experience with different scope types and the best scope for a certain gun type.
I figure that the MP7 is a sub-machine gun, and the way I utilize it is by quickly acquiring targets reflexively and firing in short bursts. Sometimes I need to be accurate while firing down long hallways that might match the length of the MP7's effective range. I figure that I need to be able to sight in quickly and be able to quickly correlate what I see outside of my scope with what is inside of my scope, so maybe a larger diameter optic is called for?
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Post by Zorak on Dec 17, 2011 14:41:43 GMT -5
If you use an unmagnified optic, the view through the sight is the same as the view around it, which speeds things up. That's reason enough to suggest a completely unmagnified type. Assuming it's a decent unit on a decent mount, you'll always have at least as much accuracy as you have with irons, but be able to acquire targets more quickly.
Are you looking at replica or real sights? If it's replica, then really, they're all reflex sights, it's just a question of how they package them. Other technologies cost too much for the replica market, and some of them are protected by patents people still care about enforcing.
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Post by Overkill on Dec 17, 2011 15:29:49 GMT -5
Well, I would love real sights, but they are probably beyond my budget (around $60, maybe $80 max).
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Post by Ghast on Dec 17, 2011 15:51:35 GMT -5
I think an XPS3 would look good on an MP7 but I don't know if there's a replica made of it. If you're looking for something a bit taller, you could try a Micro T1 on a QD riser. Both are small sights that would work well with a machine pistol/submachine gun.
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Post by Pagan on Dec 17, 2011 16:56:30 GMT -5
Ghast, TTiger on ASF sell xps clones for $65.
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Post by Thor on Dec 17, 2011 18:32:48 GMT -5
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Post by Overkill on Dec 17, 2011 21:55:37 GMT -5
Its hard for me to "vizualize" some of these. How big of a lens do they have / I need? Is a "big" lens really all that great?
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Post by Zorak on Dec 17, 2011 22:35:47 GMT -5
Nope, it's irrelevant, or maybe even harmful if the optics are cheap enough. I think I know why you're worried about it, but for fast and clear targeting, you want a scope with a minimal tube, and a mount that puts the sight at a comfortable height. The small tube minimizes the occluded area around the lens, which I think is your major worry. The mount makes sure that when you bring your weapon up and look through the optics, you're looking straight through, not at some funky angle. Relying on a large lens might make it easier to look through the lens overall, but it increases the chance that you'll be doing so at a weird angle, which in turn increases the parallax of the sight. Too much parallax and you'll be in the extremely frustrating position of putting the pipper square on the target and seeing your BBs go somewhere totally else.
When you get the mount all squared away and develop the habit of keeping both eyes open at all times, you'll cease to even notice the tube on any modern red dot sight. With magnified sights it's a different situation, but your needs and budget pretty much rule magnification out.
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