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Post by Brotato on Nov 30, 2011 12:50:44 GMT -5
I'm wondering which brands of BB you would recommend over others brands and for what reasons? I've been using matrix and airsplat brand .25s, but after I heard someone saying those brands are crap I thought I'd ask what you would suggest over these?
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Post by Knief on Nov 30, 2011 15:12:20 GMT -5
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Post by Spear on Nov 30, 2011 16:49:42 GMT -5
Eh, I think it depends. Obviously I'd go with higher end BBs than the lower tiers, but in the end I think it's what your gun takes well to. For example my 2gx KWA hated my Bioshots, but the second I put KWA/KSC bbs in there it performed magnificantly. My M14, on the other hand, loves my bioshots, and I get wonderful accuracy and range with them. Buddy's CA M14 seemed to take best to Echo1 BBs. I've heard some people praise Bioval BBs as being the cat's meow, but others have said that they misfed and didnt shoot right in their guns. It's all about your setup.
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Post by ctres on Nov 30, 2011 17:35:42 GMT -5
If you are not the type to tweat and modify your gun, then what spear says is spot on. You really just have to experiment with some different brands. However, airsoft guns don't just "like" certain brands better. There is always a real reason for inconsistent feeding or other problems. To some people, it just isn't worth it to go messing with the internals to get certain bb's to feed just right, but for those who demand top performance, and have the skills to achieve it, it usually is.
Generally speaking, there are really only a few factors that should effect bb feeding problems, those being the magazine, (easy to swap out and test another), the hop up bucking lips (If they are too wide for a smaller diameter bb this can cause double feeds. Once again, pretty easy to swap out), and third the positionin of the hop up unit/interaction with the air nozzle (this would be a bit more involved to fix, but it much more unlikely than the first two).
With the possible problems covered, one is left to select the best quality bb's one can get his hands on. Qualities of good bb's include all of the following, and possibly more. consistant diameter between bb's consistant roundness consistantly smooth surface finish consistant weight consistant weight distribution within each bb (air bubbles, etc)
A perfect bb is difficult to find, but bioval bbmax .27s and SGM .29s are generally regarded as the top quality, but are fairly expensive, and not very practical for use in an AEG due to the ammount of bb's used. Other great bb's are normal biovals, (not bbmax) goldenball, bioshot, and G&G biodegradables. I'm sure there are more out there that are pretty good, but these are usually regarded as the best. You will probably want to shop around and see what fits your budget.
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Post by Overkill on Dec 8, 2011 20:25:55 GMT -5
I wouldn't use Biovals. There was a thread awhile back on why, but the short of it is that they lack the central air pocket that most BB's have. This means that when they strike a target their force per unit area is much greater because the BB does not compress anywhere near as much. Their have been reports of broken car windows, etc.
As for BB brands to use, my team has been cycling through many different brands to determine this! I do not recommend Javelins and would not buy them again. I have NEVER had a problem with any G&G brand BB. Airsoft Elites are holding up well so far. Madbulls are a great brand. The cheaper King's Arms platinum series BB's are a bit iffy (and they smell HORRIBLE!, like rotten butt mixed with rubbing alcohol).
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Post by helmet on Dec 9, 2011 0:12:29 GMT -5
Well first of all don't buy Matrix (garbage like crossman), or you'll represent every villain with a gun in any movie ever created. You'll hit everything around your target, but the target itself I have nothing else to say. I've always been partial to Airsoft Elite, KWA and GoldenBall ProSlicks, they have amazing accuracy and have never failed me.
For CQB I usually use .20g or .23 Airsoft Elite or KWA and for field use .25 KWA or .25 GB PS.
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Post by ctres on Dec 9, 2011 15:13:42 GMT -5
Yes, there have been some problems with biovals, but only the clear .27g bbmax, and yes, I have heard the same reports, thought I'm not 100% sure how much of it to believe. The problem is not just that they don't have airbubbles, it's that they are extremely hard. This means that they do not deform upon impact to dissipate any energy, so nearly all of it is directed right into the point of contact, which can cause some significant damage. This issue is not a problem with any of bioval's other bb's though.
All in all, I think that you really need to determine what you will be using your bb's for. If it is CQB, it probably won't matter that much as long as they don't jam. If you are playing outdoor, you may want to get something a little nicer for a little bit longer range.
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Post by justified on Dec 9, 2011 19:02:14 GMT -5
Hailstorm has a new line of BB's coming out and their current BB's I have had no issues with and have performed well in all my guns.
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Post by Ogre on Feb 29, 2012 11:24:11 GMT -5
I know this is a old threat but I have a legit question and I didn't feeling like starting a Similar thread, being told to refer back to this one and my question never being answered. What about running Crossman .20s or .25s. I run them because you can pick them up almost anywhere. I've always been under the impression that as long as your not Running .12s that your AEG will be fine, but I've noticed that most people running G&G or Matrix and have been wondering if there is a reason for this. Are they just that little more Accurate? Or do the higher gram crossman bb's have the same tendency to break in your gun as the point .12s do?
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Post by jonezy on Feb 29, 2012 16:17:00 GMT -5
I prefer to use Madbull .25's, Echo1 .28's, and WE or Madbull .43's in DMRs. Echo1 BBs are surprisingly consistent and accurate. They have a nice polish on them to boot. Bioshot BBs are also good but I had problems with them being sightly too small for my magazines. They stacked up side by side instead of in a normal double stack. My friend posted a guide on how to fix the problem by shaving a little bit of material off your mag halves here: forums.airsoftmechanics.com/index.php?topic=6167.0
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Post by Ike on Feb 29, 2012 20:52:21 GMT -5
I use Madbull for pretty much everything since they make pretty much every weight and all of their .3g+ BBs are easy to find.
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Post by Knief on Feb 29, 2012 21:53:18 GMT -5
Nobody reads the entire thread, do they?
Rabbit, I'll get back to you with a full response tomorrow, but the gist of it is, Crosman bbs have problems with irregularity. It's not just a matter of accuracy, poor manufacturing results in oddly shaped bbs, the occasional bur or seam line, dimples, and other malformities that can and will jam your gun, which can then cause breakage (broken nozzle, broken tappet plate, stripped piston or stripped gear being the more likely outcomes).
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Post by Ogre on Mar 1, 2012 12:30:52 GMT -5
Knief, I read the entire thread, and thats for the info, Although I've never had Jamming problems with Crossman other than a .12 somehow got mixed in with all my bb's, I did have a fairly decent AEG crap out on me and all I ran in it were crossman. I just put 200 dollars towards a Echo1 Stag 15 M4 so will start running higher quailty BB's but I don't really want to have to order them online and wind up paying shipping which would wind up being more than the cost of the BB's themselves, so I'm looking for retailers that sell them or websites that will ship them for free. I can't wait to see what you full response is.
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Post by Overkill on Mar 1, 2012 19:33:16 GMT -5
Nobody reads the entire thread, do they? Rabbit, I'll get back to you with a full response tomorrow, but the gist of it is, Crosman bbs have problems with irregularity. It's not just a matter of accuracy, poor manufacturing results in oddly shaped bbs, the occasional bur or seam line, dimples, and other malformities that can and will jam your gun, which can then cause breakage (broken nozzle, broken tappet plate, stripped piston or stripped gear being the more likely outcomes). My friend claims to have seen one in the shape of a bannana.
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Post by Krylic on Mar 1, 2012 21:38:03 GMT -5
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