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Post by Vampyre (Immortal) on Apr 1, 2011 12:16:09 GMT -5
I wasn't recommending that he buy part I just wanted to see if the part was already in his gun. If he had a metal trigger box it may have been cheap metal, but it would have held up a bit better than the plastic trigger box. To make a decent rifle set up you do not have to go about spending a grand on a bunch of random parts. The first upgrades you will want to get are a PDI Hop-up chamber( www.airsoftatlanta.com/PDI_Hop_Up_Chamber_Type_96_p/66229.htm ), a TBB AEG barrel ( www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=category&item=GD-PT-TN08&search=special&rs=Accurate Barrels for AEGs&catid=14&cat=69 ), and a high quality hop up bucking (hard or soft depending on your preference). Put those parts in and make some DIY barrel spacers and you will have an accurate and long range set-up. Most of the time the parts that cost the most are the replacement durability parts that you have to put in when you want to go with a high fps set up. Insanely high FPS is not the most critical aspect of a airsoft bolt action rifle, besides with a high quality hop-up and ttb you will be out-ranging pretty much everyone anyway. Like fuzzy said going for high fps in the beginning is an easy way of turning your rifle into a money pit. P.S. DISCLAIMER: I don't recommend this try at own risk. I do not Recommend this, but the stock trigger box can be reinforced in a down and dirty way with some epoxy like this: I did this retroactively after having an upgraded spring, piston, and spring guide put in and used for 3 months. I have been using a 525fps setup and the trigger box has held up fine. Since this is an at your own risk mod if you were to try it you should have the funds lined up to buy a metal OEM replacement or a much more robust zero trigger. Again I am just showing you all what I did. Attempt at your own risk. I don't want to argue about how out there the idea is.
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Post by num1executioner on Apr 1, 2011 14:11:56 GMT -5
i was going to say.. but its cool trig. We are adults and sometimes it happens. But we all see things a different way so yeah.
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Post by num1executioner on Apr 1, 2011 14:19:27 GMT -5
Thanks fuzzy that list helped a lot. Thats what i was looking for.
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Post by fuzzywolly on Apr 1, 2011 14:46:03 GMT -5
Vamps little guide there can be very useful if you cannot afford to get the zero trigger right away. You could always save up some dough, while modding the stock trigger box to handle the rifle's power in stock form. And no problem, glad the list helped you out. Please post here if you have any other questions. There are several of us here that can help. P.S. Capitalize them "I"s so you do not get in any trouble.
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Post by num1executioner on Apr 1, 2011 15:39:27 GMT -5
One more question, Is there anyway to avoid the DIY spaces and just buy some? I dont want to have to make my own parts or whatnow. I like the hop up and barrel cause thats in my price range. The spacers is now where im confused at. DIY? and cant I just buy some spacers instead of moding some?
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Post by num1executioner on Apr 1, 2011 15:53:24 GMT -5
Ok so I think I got my list. Please correct me if needed.
PDI Hop-up chamber(whenever in stock) TBB AEG barrel APS Type 96 Barrel Spacers by Polar Star
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Post by fuzzywolly on Apr 1, 2011 16:24:57 GMT -5
Ok so I think I got my list. Please correct me if needed. PDI Hop-up chamber(whenever in stock) TBB AEG barrel APS Type 96 Barrel Spacers by Polar Star You need to add an AEG bucking to the list. Otherwise, everything else is useless. Get rid of the barrel spacers. You can make your own, they will save you money, and can be customized for the absolute perfect fit. So it should look like this: 1. PDI Chamber 2. AEG Bucking 3. AEG barrel (do not get the m14 length, which is 500 mm. The m14 barrel is different than most aeg barrels and will not fit the PDI chamber. Get a 509mm barrel and cut it down or get rid of the end cap and find a threaded flash hider). 4. Electric tape (for barrel spacers)--get at any hardware store
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Post by num1executioner on Apr 1, 2011 17:40:31 GMT -5
Hmm could I just buy the barrel spacers and still work as good compared to making my own?
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Post by fuzzywolly on Apr 1, 2011 17:46:20 GMT -5
Hmm could I just buy the barrel spacers and still work as good compared to making my own? Can I ask why you would do that? Custom barrel spacers are extremely easy to make and you will save around $20 bucks.
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Post by num1executioner on Apr 1, 2011 17:51:10 GMT -5
PDI M16/AUG 6.05 Tight Bore Barrel 509mm PDI Chamber Element Hopup Bucking, 65 Hard (Blue) APS Type 96 Barrel Spacers by Polar Star
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Post by fuzzywolly on Apr 1, 2011 18:41:49 GMT -5
Just know that with the 509mm barrel you are either going to have to remove your end cap for the barrel to fit, or cut down the barrel a few millimeters.
As for the bucking, never had experience with that one. I recommend G&G soft buckings. I have had good success with those.
And once again, why the expensive barrel spacers? Save up for the trigger.
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Post by Vampyre (Immortal) on Apr 1, 2011 20:30:35 GMT -5
I bet he could find a 500mm barrel that is cut for standard AEG so no cutting would be nescessary then.
If the endcap is plastic he could just drill the hole a little larger so the 509mm barrel would fit through.
Anyway don't buy barel spacers, they are a waste of money. It is easy and cheap to make better ones. Fuzzy you should post a picture to show him.
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Post by num1executioner on Apr 1, 2011 23:50:08 GMT -5
Ok so I just read what you all posted and well guys i think im going to stay stock. Im not a material person nor do I have the gear to make pieces or trim barrels. I am kinda bummed now. I really was aimimg for range and now hearing about the cheap plastic trigger problems which I was going to upgrade to get that out and hearing all these other upgrades I might as well go buy oem trigger boxes so if mine breaks i got a spare. No point in spending all this money on these upgrades when i can go get a l96 fully upgraded for 300. Then i wont have to worry about this part has to go with this part and stuff. But thanks everyone it was worth a try.
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Post by Vampyre (Immortal) on Apr 2, 2011 12:44:56 GMT -5
Before you completely give up on upgrading your rifle have you ever consider that someone on MiA cood put the upgrades in for you.
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Post by fuzzywolly on Apr 3, 2011 15:15:47 GMT -5
At some point you are going to have to open up your rifle, whether it is upgraded or not. Bolt action rifles are easy to learn the ins and outs of. If you cannot take the time to figure out your rifle, take it apart, and tweak it, than sniping is not for you. There are many guides on here to help you. I was in your position at one point, but I took the time to learn my rifle, and was able to buy the upgrades and install them by myself.
While Vamp's suggestion to get someone to put it together for you for your first time is good, in the long run, you are going to want to do it yourself in case of future problems/things that need to be replaced in the rifle. Therefore, you can either learn your rifle so you can do this yourself, or buy an "upgraded" rifle that will need to be checked out sooner or later as well.
Judging from what you have in your other thread, why not take option one. Buying the "upgraded" rifle you have listed is not exactly high quality. It will need to be opened up. Why not save the money for some high quality parts and stick with your current rifle?
But this is simply advice. It is your choice, but just realize we have experience and are trying to help you make the best possible decision.
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