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Post by Kimchee (aka AMAZN AZN) on Mar 26, 2011 5:23:49 GMT -5
Well spyd3r,barrett,tatsumi and vampyre,where do you buy your guns?I have bought 18 rifles and 10 pistols from commandos.I have had great success with buying guns there.Seems to me that somebody who has only been there once isn't the person that i want advise from.And at least this store works with the customer when something breaks.Maybe you should educate yourself about airsoft,before you pass judgment about the knowledge of the store workers .You have a better store in the state of Michigan,let me know.Also, if you don't like the prices of getting your gun fix.Maybe you should find somewhere else or fix them yourself. I suggest you read the rules before you publish such a bold first post on this forum.You will soon realize grammar is very important in this community. As for the remarks to Sypd3r and the other various veteran members, these are great players and have a large amount of knowledge in the realm of airsoft. These are people to take advise from. These individuals know what they're talking about. If you are one to buy 28 overpriced, clone airsoft guns, maybe you are the one to read up on the sport. To add, I know that Spyd3r has a gun tech, Romero, whom does great work, that he can go to. I assume that he just asked to see if this guy knew his stuff. If these MiA members went there once and decided it was not a very good establishment, then, I wouldn't waste my time/money to make the drive there. You don't seem like a consumer reporter. Just another retailer/friend of a retailer promoting business.
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Post by Fugazi on Mar 26, 2011 5:26:05 GMT -5
Well spyd3r,barrett,tatsumi and vampyre,where do you buy your guns?I have bought 18 rifles and 10 pistols from commandos.I have had great success with buying guns there.Seems to me that somebody who has only been there once isn't the person that i want advise from.And at least this store works with the customer when something breaks.Maybe you should educate yourself about airsoft,before you pass judgment about the knowledge of the store workers .You have a better store in the state of Michigan,let me know.Also, if you don't like the prices of getting your gun fix.Maybe you should find somewhere else or fix them yourself. No go back to my first post in this thread. My lack of English in the impression was spot on... Edit: And at that, we're a pretty tight-knit community here. You can't really take jabs at anyone without someone coming down on you. Not a good first post, and probably your last.
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Post by Zorak on Mar 26, 2011 10:03:20 GMT -5
Oldmanmike, while you're free to recount your own good experiences at the store, you aren't allowed to bash other members for giving their opinions. Chill out.
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Post by oldmanmike on Mar 26, 2011 20:39:11 GMT -5
You are right .I will not post anything on here.Thank you for the information about your veteran players.You only give this sport a bad name by being grammar queens.This web site hasn't changed in the last 3 years.You talk the same smack about punctuation and grammar.I didn't know the F-word was correct grammar.I will continue to stick up for friends..Also the direct question was never answered.Where do you buy your airsoft guns.I figured that you wouldn't answer that question.Also, the fact that I buy a lot of airsoft guns that are replicas of real guns should not matter.At least i can afford them.Thank you for your time>
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Post by Carnage on Mar 26, 2011 22:08:18 GMT -5
Although I have purchased a few things from Commandos since Christmas, I actually like the store and the owner, Sam, is nice. The last time I have been in there (about 2 weeks ago) they had a pretty good selection of guns and brands including: KWA pistols (NS2 models), G&G FN2000, A&K Masadas, and Classic Army M4/M16s.
Now, so far I have bought a 4x ACOG scope ($100), an Nc Star green laser ($65), and a few other miscellaneous items such as BBs and have had no problems with them.
Just a side note; since I know the owner pretty well, and me and my team (just a group of friends) try to bargain with Sam by finding cheaper online prices. Since Commandos Airsoft is a fairly new local airsoft store, they want your business. Furthermore, I've learned that if you go in there just looking around, they will try to sell you stuff you really don't need. Therefore, go to Commandos knowing what you want in mind, and understand that you know what you're doing if you want to purchase internals.
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Post by oldmanjay on Mar 27, 2011 15:28:00 GMT -5
I've been reading these post about this store and thought I would give my 2 cents.
This store (yes it's a store, there to make money) is full of guns to cater to all skill levels. They have a ton inventory to look at and touch. The people that work there try to help you the best they can. I even know of a couple people who returned a gun ( yes returned, unheard of in airsoft.).
They may not have everything in airsoft but they have a lot of stuff.
I know that oldmanmike he has played at my field and yes he has that many guns. He is also a good guy. Yes he's friends with the owner, but if someone were to make fun of your friend because of how they talk or look you would get mad to.
I know the owner of commandos yes, but a homer I am not. I say commandos has it's place. He helps people get into a sport you all love. He may not be evike or airsoftgi but he helping this sport grow in this area.
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Post by commandos on May 22, 2011 17:49:51 GMT -5
hye Guys this is Sam from the Commandos Store I read your reviews and we welcome any comments but I would like to reply to spyd3r, tatsumi, vampyre to clarify some points for them . first of all if you think that 70 to 80 % of our stock are springers and plastic what do you say about the over 70 models of metal riffles that we have in STOCK . second if we you consider the brands that we carry such as SRC, JG, G&G ECHO 1, ICS, HK, MAD BULL , JAVLIN, FN, Classic ARMY , COLT, KWA, and KING ARM, ARE cheap brands I'm too lazy to spell a full word out. Please mock me. let know what brand do you guys use so I can get it for u. third regarding repairs we are the cheapest and you are always welcome to step by and find out. forth for those who consider airsoft products and accessories are shitt why did you choose to play airsoft and be in this field ? lastley regarding fugazi we are hiring if you are looking for a job and know more about guns.
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Post by EvilFrostop on May 22, 2011 18:33:07 GMT -5
I visited today while attending Eastside's event. Bought a bag of bbs, for a decent price too. Wide variety, ranging from spring pistols to KWA NS2 series, gas, tac gear, etc etc... Not bad, for a locally operating store and I feel it does its part in introducing new players to the sport.
EDIT: It was their Gibraltar store, just to clarify.
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Post by Knief on May 22, 2011 18:58:23 GMT -5
Commandos,
We always welcome an involved retailer on these boards, but we do ask that you follow the rules that everybody else does. I've gotta ask you to use proper grammar when you post because honestly, what you wrote was incredibly hard to read. You've got to clean it up in your next post.
We also do allow user reviews of retailers here, even if they're negative. You're obviously free to address them, but retailers are almost always on thin ice when they start debating with other members because of the basic principle of their conflict of interest. I don't mean that as a threat or anything like that, just as an FYI. For instance, guys like Spyd3r and Fugazi have pretty good reputations around here, so a lot of members are going to trust their assessment of a gun, a game, or a store. Anybody associated with a retailer, on the other hand, comes in with an automatic strike against them because they're inherently biased toward their store. Even if that bias isn't intentional, it's hard for anybody involved in a company to see it from an outsider's perspective, and we all know that. So when you start arguing against claims made by respected members, you're already starting with an uphill battle.
What that means for you is you've got to have a lot of facts to disprove what these guys have said. For instance, Spyder said that most of your guns were display models, and you didn't have much else in stock. Youre response to that was that you have over 70 metal AEGs in stock of various brands. But that doesn't really answer Spyd3r's concern. For all we know, 60 of those guns are display models, and you've only got 1 G&G, 1 KWA, 1 King Arms, and the rest of those other clone guns or sport line CAs. It would be more helpful to tell us that you've got, say, 50 AEGs in your stock room, and how many from each of the respected brands (nobody cares how many SRC or Javelin guns you have because they're not very good).
Another huge problem with your response is that you list H&K, Colt, and FN as brands of gun you carry. None of those companies makes airsoft guns. You might have licensed replicas of them (most likely made by Cybergun or branded by Umarex or something), but pretty much everybody here knows that those companies don't make airsoft guns. So listing them as brands that you carry looks deceitful. Claims like that are going to turn off a huge chunk of your market before they even set foot in your store.
Again, I'm not trying to knock you down. This is genuine advice given in good faith. We'd love to have you hang out on the boards and get active in the community. It's really the best way to reach the largest airsoft market in the state. If you make a positive impression, I know there are a ton of guys in the metro Detroit area looking for a quality retailer. There's no reason you can't fill that niche.
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Post by commandos on May 22, 2011 22:16:48 GMT -5
Knief, I am not here to debate or argue with anyone but i have to defend myself and my place of buisness. As far as spydrs remarks about us selling display models and not having anything but displays in stock I would like to inform him and anyone else that cares, that I have 3 of each model and I never sell a display to anyone without their knowledge that they are purchasing an item that has been on display to the public. And as far as the subject about Colt, Fn, and H&K, we all know they are not manufactured by these companys but they are definitely all liscensed products. Also, I notice that you included your personal opinion about Javelin and SRC, I have never saw a problem with these manufacturers that I haven't saw with any of the other major brands that I carry. And since I can see that this board is made up of all personal opinions and no true facts, let me get an opinion on this, a Javelin blowback , fully metal, M4 for $175. Pretty good huh? Oh, but then again I forgot, your not a big Javelin fan so let me get someone elses opinion on that one. And last but not least, sorry I was in a hurry when I replied to the last review and my grammar was not all that great, but you might want to do some editing in your message you wrote to me for example, paragraph #4 take the S off of '' makes'' in the second sentence and add the word'' haven't'' between they and even in the last sentence. See, noone is perfect ,right? Stop in sometime and check out all of our new arrivals, you wont be dissapointed.
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Post by Ghast on May 22, 2011 22:23:19 GMT -5
But really dude, Javelin is just a terrible replica. I'd put SRC on par with E1.
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Post by commandos on May 22, 2011 22:34:44 GMT -5
Hey Ghast, whats up man? You know, honestly, if i were to reply to everyones personal opion on here I would be in front of this computer 24/7 and I would never be able to open my store and sell my Javelin and SRC to all the fans of airsoft. L..o..L
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Post by Garlock on May 23, 2011 7:34:59 GMT -5
I've been to Commando's before and honestly, I'll stick with my local retailers that /host/ games and are actively involved in the community. Commando's usually has a decent stock of rifles, but as far as market competition, they have no idea. Maybe they want to function as a business, and they have their place for catering to noobs and experienced players who don't know what Ordering Offline or know where our local trusted retailers are. However, the prices they charge for most replicas are absolutely ridiculous. My favorite was walking by, asking how much the A&K SAW was, and getting a reply of 425$. I giggled inside, and went on my merry way. Commando's, honestly, you're not helping yourself to /me/ as a consumer by coming back as harsh and confrontational to veteran members on the board. I understand you can't be expected to know our members personally, but I can say that when you come on here insulting our Moderator's and the Hellfish, whom are one of the larger and more prominent teams around here's, knowledge of the sport and the game, that's when you lose a large amount of favor with me. I can guarantee you I will not be the only one who sees it this way. Instead of approaching this forum with peaceful intentions of improving your shop and /maybe/ improving your customer base to cater to a (In my humble opinion) more professional set of players that are actively involved in the sport, you come here with the hostility of a child. You come here acting hostile and you act confrontational to veteran members and teams here that we respect. When they tell you to try to use proper grammar, you do, but you also come back with the Six-year-old retort of "Oh yeah, well, you didn't do it perfectly either". It's like if someone kindly tells you upon coming naked to a fancy dinner party, that you need to put on some pants, and you proceed to tell them that they are using the wrong fork to eat their soup with to spite them. Honestly, our veteran members here have seen most major brands fielded and know what they are talking about when they choose favorites and diss brands. The fact that you came up with a blow back model as your first choice of rifle for professional players makes me Leary of you in addition to your shady postings. You have your place for selling to some people, but your replies to the members here that are trying to /help/ you come off as childish. I'd rather not waste my investments on dealing with a child. I know a good amount of members who will be quick to throw in extra money to support local business instead of buying from evike or airsoftgi, and I may even take that boat once in a while too, but I sure as hell won't be doing it with you. Next time, learn proper business etiquette and approach your consumer base with "The customer is always right" attitude instead of introducing yourself as a pretentious retailer who's out to make money and sell only to the inexperienced members who have no involvement in this community. So go ahead and sell your Javelin and SRC to all the fans of airsoft. L..o..L I'll personally steer clear. Honestly, I think you really should've thought a little harder about coming in hostile to a forum with over 7000 members in the sport you are trying to market for. I'd personally consider starting off on a new leaf and reading up here before posting again. Come back with a more positive attitude and receptive to our community, or don't come back at all. Trust me, further posting like you have been is only going to hurt you in the long run. If you truly want us as a consumerbase, embrace our ideas and listen to our field experience. You can continue marketing the same guns to the same inexperienced user base that you have been, but if you want dedicated MIA members, maybe instead of shoving your views in our face, you should listen to those with some field expertise. I know I won't be buying from you until you do. But, that's just my two cents..
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Post by oldmanmike on May 23, 2011 12:39:26 GMT -5
well,well gramor gueens are here again.Commandos doesn.t have to prove nothing to anybody.He has a good clintel.Commandos has two stores and thinking of another.Knief answer the question stated awhile ago.Where do you guys buy your airsoft guns.Red scout, that was very long winded.Why would somebody wear vampire teeth during a milsim.Now that is childish.Yes old man Mike was at the oda Milsim sat.I was tring to find the suicide queens to pay my respects.Oh please don,t take that as a threat.Well at lease I get to learn new words.(Finger fucked AEG,S)Yes the eastside is very tight knit group.
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Post by Carnage on May 23, 2011 13:03:13 GMT -5
Just a little complaint, I went to Commandos to buy a TBB for my KWA KM4 SR7. When I asked the guy behind the counter, he immediately went to a large section of a glass display counter and started looking through used and extra parts. I'm serious. I asked if they had any TBBs and they were pulling out inner barrels attached to hop-ups (most likely from old guns) and even M4 outer barrels with the front sight still attached. I wouldn't suggest buying internals from them at all. And I've always had a good experience with Airsoft GI because their prices, shipping, and customer service is great. Also, the store is always so hot in there. It's like a sauna but without the steam.
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