Monk
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Post by Monk on Feb 10, 2010 15:29:59 GMT -5
Why not just develop an event where the U.S. side is one or two standard colors. Let's just say MARPAT and ACU for shits and giggles. You can put Army and Marines on the same team and divide them into two separate forces. They won't fight one another but they also don't need to cooperate for objectives. This way, anyone who can recognize digital patterns knows what team they're on and which team they're fighting and teams remain very distinct.
As far as people wanting to use their X000 $ gear goes, who cares? They can pick their side until the roster is full and then if they don't wanna come, they don't come. If I think a game is gonna be fun, I'm not gonna worry about when I get to show off my "l33t" gear and I'm pretty sure that most of the people here would follow the same idea.
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Post by cqbr on Feb 10, 2010 16:04:05 GMT -5
.As far as people wanting to use their X000 $ gear goes, who cares? They can pick their side until the roster is full and then if they don't wanna come, they don't come. If I think a game is gonna be fun, I'm not gonna worry about when I get to show off my "l33t" gear and I'm pretty sure that most of the people here would follow the same idea. Oh so wrong good sir. It is all about lookin' fly!! I have nothing else to say But that's why most players are indeed flexible individuals and are willing to bring a different color camouflage to put them on the team that needs more players. I don't really see a problem with the way things are done now, and nothing really needs to be changed. As for the Multicam debate. The most common excuse hosts use to whine about for not allowing Multicam is: "It's too hard to identify" So then why not have Multicam players be on their own fireteam and set the scenario accordingly? It seems that MC is definitely one of, if not the most popular pattern in the airsoft world and denying people from wearing it is not going to make it suddenly dissappear...I have nothing else to say. (But I'm biased cuz me likey MC )
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Post by Echelon on Feb 10, 2010 19:43:41 GMT -5
.As far as people wanting to use their X000 $ gear goes, who cares? They can pick their side until the roster is full and then if they don't wanna come, they don't come. If I think a game is gonna be fun, I'm not gonna worry about when I get to show off my "l33t" gear and I'm pretty sure that most of the people here would follow the same idea. Honestly? I know a lot of people who really care about their gear setups, and showing it off at events. I personally love to be accurate for milsim events, and even semi-accurate for cqb. Shooting people is fun, but for a lot of people it's more than that. It's showing off your cool loadout, and your cool toys.
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Post by Relarz on Feb 10, 2010 21:47:23 GMT -5
.As far as people wanting to use their X000 $ gear goes, who cares? They can pick their side until the roster is full and then if they don't wanna come, they don't come. If I think a game is gonna be fun, I'm not gonna worry about when I get to show off my "l33t" gear and I'm pretty sure that most of the people here would follow the same idea. Honestly? I know a lot of people who really care about their gear setups, and showing it off at events. I personally love to be accurate for milsim events, and even semi-accurate for cqb. Shooting people is fun, but for a lot of people it's more than that. It's showing off your cool loadout, and your cool toys. ^This^ I used to just like playing guns. Then I talked and hung around with reenactors, and now its something else completely. Its about looking the part, and for the most part, behaving the part, too.
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Post by Thor on Feb 10, 2010 22:40:11 GMT -5
In some ways, I wish the trend for airsoft would be to drift more toward reenactment, as far as the attention to detail and whatnot. It's kind of annoying to have spent hundreds, if not thousands of dollars on being a geardo, and looking fucking awesome, to have some kid show up with a UTG L96, in realtree camo or a hunting sniper ghillie.
Now, that being said, what I want, and what I reasonably expect are two different things. But there's absolutely no reason why someone starting out shouldn't be able to save enough to get a green-side and tan-side camo to go along with their weapon. Especially with the exponential rise of clone AEGs.
But maybe I'm just being elitist.
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Post by Psychosis on Feb 11, 2010 23:48:36 GMT -5
Ban airsoft. Problem solved!
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Post by Knife on Feb 12, 2010 15:53:41 GMT -5
It's not even like having a proper looking set up is that hard. You could spend 200-300 and buy the shit from ebaybanned and you'd look the part just fine. If you don't know what to get, just ask if you're trying to go for something specific and I'm sure there are enough of us that know who uses what to help you out.
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Post by cqbr on Feb 12, 2010 18:41:44 GMT -5
It's not even like having a proper looking set up is that hard. You could spend 200-300 and buy the shit from ebaybanned and you'd look the part just fine. If you don't know what to get, just ask if you're trying to go for something specific and I'm sure there are enough of us that know who uses what to help you out. Exactly. There really isn't any excuse for someone to come out in Blue Jeans or a T-Shirt and expect to be taken seriously. If you don't have the money, go kick rocks till' you have enough saved up to look the part. There's nothing worse than having your fireteam fully outfitted in camo and gear that blends in with their surroundings, only to look behind you and see the kid in a white T-Shirt and blue jeans tagging along a few feet from you. That and when someone does actually have the nerve to come out in the casual friday attire, you have NO clue how everyone else snickers behind your back.
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Post by Psychosis on Feb 12, 2010 19:46:07 GMT -5
Fuck it, I'll show up in jeans and a t-shirt the next game that I actually attend. Maybe my perspective has changed since I joined up, but it's just a game.
The problem is this: there's no middle ground between taking milsim too seriously vs. people who don't take it seriously enough.
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Post by kaboose1 on Feb 12, 2010 19:46:27 GMT -5
In some ways, I wish the trend for airsoft would be to drift more toward reenactment, as far as the attention to detail and whatnot. It's kind of annoying to have spent hundreds, if not thousands of dollars on being a geardo, and looking fucking awesome, to have some kid show up with a UTG L96, in realtree camo or a hunting sniper ghillie. Now, that being said, what I want, and what I reasonably expect are two different things. But there's absolutely no reason why someone starting out shouldn't be able to save enough to get a green-side and tan-side camo to go along with their weapon. Especially with the exponential rise of clone AEGs. But maybe I'm just being elitist. Agreed. First off, personally I think airsoft is about 50% looks. Honestly, can anyone deny the fact that they think it's awesome to dress the part they play? I just got done getting my MARSOC load out almost complete and I can't wait to get out of the field to play in it. I also agree with the fact that someone starting can't get a tan or green camouflage. You can go to any thrift store and find stuff you are looking for. It doesn't have to even be a Army/Navy surplus. If you shop intelligently you can find a two complete uniforms for 30 bucks. For a vest, you can pick up an OE Tech (If you aren't that much into getting a CIRAS or something similar) for a little over 100 dollars on ASGI. Over all, my opinion on this situation should be that for Milsim events, the camouflage should match up as best it can. Worse comes to worse we can always resort to what Britain does and use arm bands.
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Post by Dingo™ on Feb 17, 2010 13:26:03 GMT -5
...personally I think airsoft is about 50% looks. Honestly, can anyone deny the fact that they think it's awesome to dress the part they play? ... 50% What!?! Looking totally bad ass is like 75 to 80 percent of my airsoft enjoyment!! Being tacti-cool is way more important than being tactical....
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Post by kaboose1 on Feb 17, 2010 20:03:01 GMT -5
...personally I think airsoft is about 50% looks. Honestly, can anyone deny the fact that they think it's awesome to dress the part they play? ... 50% What!?! Looking totally bad ass is like 75 to 80 percent of my airsoft enjoyment!! Being tacti-cool is way more important than being tactical.... I was being generous and didn't want to get yelled at. I definitely will agree on the fact that airsoft is 80 percent looks. We wouldn't spend hundreds to even thousands of dollars on gear if we didn't want to look cool, or else we would just stuff our magazines in our pockets and not us NVGs.
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Post by AztecWarrior on Feb 18, 2010 12:29:29 GMT -5
If you don't have the money, go kick rocks till' you have enough saved up to look the part. ^ I I have nothing else to say'd.
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Post by Great Troub of Troubistan on Feb 20, 2010 16:10:34 GMT -5
If you don't have the money, go kick rocks till' you have enough saved up to look the part. ^ I I have nothing else to say'd. I came... You don't really have to spend $200-300 trying, you just need to not come in real tree camouflage and a crossdraw vest. Edit: Also, fuck those horrible condor shingles, they look so horrible.
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Post by Kiki on Feb 21, 2010 12:30:09 GMT -5
In some ways, I wish the trend for airsoft would be to drift more toward reenactment, as far as the attention to detail and whatnot. It's kind of annoying to have spent hundreds, if not thousands of dollars on being a geardo, and looking fucking awesome, to have some kid show up with a UTG L96, in realtree camo or a hunting sniper ghillie. Agreed, for MilSim games. For Rec games, whatever. If you want to show up with a UTG "sniper" and realtree camo, fine. But when I'm at a MilSim game, I want everyone to have the right camo and at least try to look the part. If that means all EbayBanned gear, then so be it. It'll look better than some random green pants and a faded woodland jacket with a paintball mask, and it'll surely look better than realtree camo. [Yes, I am referring to Black Anvil- It was a great game, but definitely not anywhere close to looking like MilSim] Edit: One more thing- I think MilSim games should require ONE or possibly two camos per team. That means in tan vs green that it's actually tan vs green. So, 3 or 6 color vs woodland or woodland MARPAT. Hell, you can even throw in ACU if you really want. But that would also mean no black or "contractor" loadouts (most people think blue jeans and a black shirt = perfect contractor loadout), and I think it would really help clear up team ID issues.
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