Gorem
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Post by Gorem on Dec 16, 2009 17:57:20 GMT -5
I have a quick question. I have recantly been giving the opportunitie to work as a support gunner ;D. I want to know how to set up my molle vest. I will not be holding any mags because i will be using a box mag. I need some tips please. I would also like some pictures if possible. Thanks
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Post by Kiki on Dec 16, 2009 19:01:57 GMT -5
What vest do you have? What things do you need/want to carry? How many box mags do you have? SAW pouches take up a lot of real estate, but that may or may not be an issue depending on how much other stuff you want to carry.
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Post by Great Troub of Troubistan on Dec 16, 2009 19:28:45 GMT -5
What are the things you need to carry on you? BBs, Batteries?
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Post by Zorak on Dec 16, 2009 19:38:36 GMT -5
I'd go very minimalist. You need (at most) a sidearm, radio, bags of BBs, snacks, and hydration. You may be able to make due with less. I'd be thinking either hydration backpack and battle belt, or simple chest rig with hydration harness.
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Post by Gorem on Dec 16, 2009 20:13:54 GMT -5
I have a rrv and I will only be using one mag. I am trying to go a light as possible.
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Post by Kiki on Dec 16, 2009 20:43:19 GMT -5
I have a rrv and I will only be using one mag. I am trying to go a light as possible. Awesome.  Now how about you try to help us so we can help you? What do you need to carry? Do you need to carry speedloaders with bb's? Do you need to carry water? An extra battery? |
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Post by Knife on Dec 16, 2009 21:07:57 GMT -5
My recommendations:
If you're going very light, skip my recommendations about using the bib and just fold it down.
A SAW or M60 pouch x 2. You can use these as utilities and they will look the part as a saw gunner.
If you're carrying a small motorola or similar, get a flashbang pouch and put it either on the bib or weakside shoulder.
Get an admin, doesn't matter to much what kind. Helpful to stick papers and whatever else in.
Alternatively, if you're running a sidearm you can get a MOLLE mount and place it on the bib.
If two saw pouches aren't enough, grab a Canteen or Medic pouch, more storage.
If you have a sidearm, get as many mag pouches as you need. Place them on your weakside flap on the RRV.
For hydro, you can get a canteen and put it in a pouch or get a Camelback and run that on your back.
Frag pouches make great pockets for killrags as well.
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Post by Chaos on Dec 16, 2009 21:10:58 GMT -5
Pick up A CIRAS and a load bearing hydration carrier, keep extra batteries and tools in the pockets on your hydration carrier you'll need something to un-jam your box mag and then any other standard tools you think you need. On the side of your CIRAS keep a utility pouch of large or medium size and throw two or so bags of BB's in their. On the other side keep to pistol pouches, assuming you have a sidearm. Also throw any other pouch you may need like a flashbang or small utility pouch for a cell phone or whatever. Also a radio pouch will be a must DON'T put it on your chest, keep it on one of the sides and run the wire for a headset (bowmen) through the MOLLE loops up to your head. On the front keep an admission pouch like the one that comes with the EB Land-CIRAS on the front to hold a map in, you'll find yourself towards the back of the lines giving cover fire for teammates so they can move up, you'll also find yourself executing movement and such so a good map pouch and radio are very important. Also, keep a small pouch used to hold latex gloves for your kill rag easy pull out in the event of being hit. I would keep only the admission pouch and kill rag pouch on the front of your plate carrier, you will be prone most of the time if your doing your job properly and having mags and such cutting into you all day is a bitch.
Another thing, steer clear of carrying multiple box mags with you into a game I personally have two and bringing both into battle is a lot more trouble then just a couple bags of BB's and loading the box mag again is easier then switching magazines.
Good luck support gunning.
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Post by Knife on Dec 16, 2009 21:21:22 GMT -5
Chaos, I'd disagree on a few points. First, a CIRAS is practically the antilightweight rig, not to mention he already has a RRV. He doesn't really have the option of leaving everything off to the sides with the way the RRV is designed. I can't say I find staying prone with rather front bulky vests to be that uncomfortable. I guess it just depends on how you've got it set up. If he's not carrying any mags, there should be nothing that will poke him or be annoying. Bags of BBs whill just flatten out. Small tools won't be that bad, the worst thing would probably be a water bottle if he ran one up front. You say a load bearing hydration carrier? What do you mean exactly? Like a Camelback? If you've got a CIRAS just get a MOLLE hydration carrier rather than having two deal with cumbersome straps on an already large rig. Its not an admission pouch, rather an admin(istrative) pouch.  |
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Post by Gorem on Dec 16, 2009 22:03:23 GMT -5
Okay, thanks for all of the advice.
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Post by bigc on Dec 17, 2009 8:00:48 GMT -5
Here's my take. Don't use a chest rig. Your SAW if that is what you are using has a capacity of 1-2000 bbs. You don't need to be hauling a ton of stuff around as that should be enough for just about every game held in Michigan. If you need more bbs then put them in a BDU pocket. LBE will just get in your way when proning out all the time too.
I rarely use any sort of LBE when rocking my SAW.
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Post by Chaos on Dec 17, 2009 15:42:55 GMT -5
Chaos, I'd disagree on a few points. First, a CIRAS is practically the antilightweight rig, not to mention he already has a RRV. He doesn't really have the option of leaving everything off to the sides with the way the RRV is designed. I can't say I find staying prone with rather front bulky vests to be that uncomfortable. I guess it just depends on how you've got it set up. If he's not carrying any mags, there should be nothing that will poke him or be annoying. Bags of BBs whill just flatten out. Small tools won't be that bad, the worst thing would probably be a water bottle if he ran one up front. You say a load bearing hydration carrier? What do you mean exactly? Like a Camelback? If you've got a CIRAS just get a MOLLE hydration carrier rather than having two deal with cumbersome straps on an already large rig. Its not an admission pouch, rather an admin(istrative) pouch. I guess to each his own, if your already rolling with a SAW I think of a heavier rig. But maybe thats just me I didn't see he had already had an RRV I opened the "reply" page before he posted that . As for the hydration carrier I was getting at one like this: www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=2701 I guess load bearing was the wronng word choice  . And as the admin pouch goes I've always called it an admission pouch I know its not called that and whenever I say it someone corrects me it's just a bad habit thanks for clarifying for him.  |
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Post by GrinchBiscuit on Dec 18, 2009 23:29:48 GMT -5
If you want light just get a Camelback with some mild carrying capacity. A MULE should fit the bill perfectly: www.optactical.com/camelbakmule.htmlYou can find them for cheaper second hand of course. I'm sure eBay would be flooded with them, seeing as Camelbak is quite a popular brand with military guys. |
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Post by StreetKill831 on Dec 19, 2009 0:48:10 GMT -5
Get this: www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_135&products_id=1545 More storage than the Mule and less than half the price. I have one and it is great. You can fit two 5000rd bags of bbs in the bottom pouch easy and the top pouch is great for misc tools. It comes with a bladder and there is molle if you need to add extra pouches. |
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When's the last time you lifted a 17000 lb gun?
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Post by Clampitt on Dec 19, 2009 15:07:56 GMT -5
It's also nowhere near as durable.
If you want lightweight and aren't trying to replicate any real loadout, then I would recommend the MULE, I've been abusing mine for 3 years or so and it's still holding up great. It will hold a good bit of equipment but remember you will be limited so you will have to make sure you take only what you need, unless you can fit it in an attached pouch on the outside.
Just remember though that you'll have to find a good place to take the pack off to get access to anything, or have someone else grab it for you. Adds time to everything.
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Now how about you try to help us so we can help you? What do you need to carry? Do you need to carry speedloaders with bb's? Do you need to carry water? An extra battery?
. And as the admin pouch goes I've always called it an admission pouch I know its not called that and whenever I say it someone corrects me it's just a bad habit thanks for clarifying for him. 
