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Post by Canto on Feb 4, 2009 13:06:08 GMT -5
Nexus, Yes, infact I would support a statewide banned player list... Hence why I made this thread/poll. But like I already said. Maybe a collaboration or collective between various event hosting groups would work. I mean, I know all fields already have various reasons for banning people, etc. I think that for the safety of the sport, it's continued growth and expansion; that cooperation between groups on this level is needed. Albeit the Michigan Sex Offender's registry is honestly what gave me this idea ; use the same idea but just not to such an extreme. Make a subforum here on MiA; where each organization has it's own thread and can update, delete, or add players to the list without general public knowledge. Password protected of course... For example: Armory Airsoft/Team FLAK Fields Lakeshore Airsoft ~ Unsafe player conduct. - All above mentioned fields. SFOD Player So-and-So ~ Removed goggles multiple times, after warning. - Davidson field. Flying Hellfish Knief ~ Sodomizing his weapon - Taylor field. And so on...
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Post by Nexus on Feb 4, 2009 14:11:31 GMT -5
When I quoted the thread title I was merely stating that I had to vote no, because of how it was worded. I understand that you are for it. I agree with your last post Canto, as long as it is private to and ran by event holders, I think it would be a great idea for you to share information about people that endanger others. Just as long as state-wide-bans are not being issued by MiA as a governing entity, but rather as a conglomerate decision by privately ran individual field owners/hosts/teams/etc.. Hopefully sodomy is a topic that never has to be addressed on MI fields.
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Post by Gestapo on Feb 4, 2009 15:41:01 GMT -5
Knief ~ Sodomizing his weapon - Taylor field. I say Perma ban his ass.
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Post by SkyPilot on Feb 4, 2009 16:34:57 GMT -5
I'm all for this, as long as it targets unsafe sportsmanship. I believe any bans should only be made by the field owner or organizer; and only after corrective action has been taken.
That said, those people who should have access to modify the list should be selected indivuals rather then entire teams or open for general comments. And any bans should be only listed for the season (or year), then removed.
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Post by Kilo Oscar Tango on Feb 4, 2009 16:46:19 GMT -5
Knief ~ Sodomizing his weapon - Taylor field. I say Perma ban his ass. He wasn't Sodomizing his rifle, the stock was just replaced by a tactical Fleshlight.
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Post by Zorak on Feb 4, 2009 17:29:17 GMT -5
My current vision for this would be that each event organizer could post who was banned, why, and for how long, and other organizers could use that information as they wished. I don't think it's helpful for MIA to try to have a standard set of punishments. To pick just one potential concern, your average bit of lousy sportsmanship might only deserve a minor punishment at a huge paintsoft op, but be good for a lifetime ban at smaller milsim events. Why? Because if you only have 40 spots open at your op, you're never going to give one to someone who spends the entire day yelling "call your hits!" when there are better, more mature players being turned away.
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Post by Great Troub of Troubistan on Feb 4, 2009 19:55:47 GMT -5
Knief ~ Sodomizing his weapon - Taylor field. I say Perma ban his ass. He wasn't Sodomizing his rifle, the stock was just replaced by a tactical Fleshlight. I am glad to see my invention has caught on. However do to strict copyright laws, you are going to hear from my lawyer.
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Post by BoredKender on Feb 4, 2009 20:38:49 GMT -5
Zorak- thank you for being able to more clearly say what i was attempting to.
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Post by kdogg on Feb 5, 2009 18:30:13 GMT -5
I think this type of thing should be handled on a field to field basis by each field owner because what one owner has an issue with, another field owner may not.
That and someone's going to get a bug up there ass about a certain player and get them banned just because.
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Post by Seven on Feb 5, 2009 18:41:19 GMT -5
I think this is stupid. Why are we policing the airsoft community?
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Post by theactionman on Feb 5, 2009 19:02:27 GMT -5
I think there should just be a place for field owners to say who was banned from their field and why. Because ultimately the choice to allow or disallow players is up to owner of the particular field.
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Post by Shadow (314) on Feb 5, 2009 20:46:17 GMT -5
I agree with Zorak and theactionman. The information should be there but there is almost no way MiA can be a policing force. Also, if you were to make this list password protected, the passwords system on this site is near nothing. Anyone with any knowledge of google can get anywhere he/she wanted on this forum. I'm not knocking this forum for it's safety features. The sport of airsoft relies on people's honor, so it works fine. But not only weak password systems, but the possibility of someone with the password sharing it, or showing the list to others is an easily imaginable scenario. You just might want to address the possibility that this list may be seen by eyes not approved. Otherwise, I approve.
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Post by Koenig on Feb 5, 2009 20:55:06 GMT -5
If an event host wants to tell people that a certain person is banned from their field, they can do it on their own. There is no need or use for a list of people that are banned from MiA as a whole.
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Post by Thor on Feb 5, 2009 21:08:58 GMT -5
I do agree with Shadow about the easiness of passwords being cracked on proboards forums (as I'm sure Knief can attest to ), but that's a limitation on the software unfortunately. You could make a restricted room, such as the Mod Squad, but then anyone with the "Moderator" or higher access could access it. Not that that's necessarily bad, but there is no way to restrict it to people that only have mod status for posting events other than a password in proboards currently (as Zorak pointed out earlier). So, it pretty much would have to be password protected. Now, that doesn't mean it still couldn't be a super hard password, as in alpha-numeric that doesn't have words in it. I have no problem with people who host events having a shared list of people they have banned and why. Ultimately it is up to event hosters whether or not they will admit someone.
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Post by Shadow (314) on Feb 5, 2009 21:34:05 GMT -5
I agree that a list of who and why is fine and good, as long as it isn't abused. But going with what thor said, even if you make a 23658362 character long password, it can still be easily cracked using a brute force password recovery program in little to no time at all. What I'm saying is that if this were to happen, you better have a contingency plan for what to do about it.
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