I noticed while shopping at Airsoft Extreme's website the other day that Guarder SR-16 and Carbine metal bodies were 150 each. I figured cool thats a pretty good price and ordered the SR-16 body. While checking out I noticed the price of shipping (UPS ground, the standard shipping) was 30+ dollars. Not wanting to be totally rapped I cancelled, 150 dollar deal turned into 183 dollar every day price. I noticed today though that if you order the Carbine body, without the logo engraved is only $8.15 shipped. I dunno it's kind of decieving and that kind of bs pisses me off so I figured I'd tell all you guys.