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Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on Feb 9, 2005 22:06:45 GMT -5
I had a G&P Colt Metal body, boy was it a pain in the arse. I had the same problems you guys had. Nothing would hold the spring to the cocking lever (Right name?), so I couldn't cover the hopup. The black part that covered the gearbox on the TM wouldn't fit nor stay in place on it either. The dust cover would not stay shut, ugh it was a nightmare.
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Post by Mite on Feb 9, 2005 22:52:08 GMT -5
I stand by my recommendation of HurricanE metal bodies for M4/M16 variants.
Judging from what I am reading, others should heed this recommendation.
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Post by Grunto on Feb 9, 2005 23:19:07 GMT -5
Wow, I had talked to so many people about this body and not one single person told me about any of this crap I have to do.
AndrewMp5k2004 (or anyone), did you have to sand out a grove in the bottom of the charging handle? Or sand down a piece on the outer barrel?
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Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on Feb 10, 2005 20:39:29 GMT -5
I just slapped mine together. Nothign really done to it, so I couldn't put in the charging handle (Cocking lever?). What you should do is if you are positive that you want to keep with the metal body, and NOT swtich back to the ABS body anytime sooon. I have heard many actually sanded down the charging handle.
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Post by markopolo on Mar 4, 2005 15:21:04 GMT -5
i broke my stock tm m733 body....looking at a SYSTEMA Carbine metal body or a HurricanE metal m4 mody...which do oyu guys reccomend?
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Post by Mite on Mar 4, 2005 15:38:47 GMT -5
I don't really feel like you've read the thread...
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if you have, I think you should know which body I would tell you to get.
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Post by Mite on Mar 4, 2005 16:43:48 GMT -5
Andrew, I was trying to promote literacy...
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Post by Jacko on May 26, 2005 0:29:33 GMT -5
Just an update, Snip ordered a G&P Colt metal body (With mhecbox) for his M16 so I'm taking a look at the problems Andrew had. I'll see if there's any way around these issues. He also bought a G&G 1 peice outer barrel which is causing nothing but problems trying to mount the Sun Project M203 on there. It's been an absolute nightmare so far but hopefully I'll work something out by the weekend.
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Post by Merrick on Oct 11, 2005 23:56:52 GMT -5
So I took a gamble and got a Guarder metal body with a metal hop up for my SR-15. The TM SR-16 ABS body just wasn't built to handle to added stresses you get with a longer barrel and metal RIS kit. The only thing that I don't like about the Guarder metal body is that it is no longer possible to access the hop up unit and inner barrel with out taking apart the entire gun. Anyway, after a smooth and painless install I have found that I am getting BB jams regularly even with my hop up turned off completely. I have disassembled the gun twice now to examine my hop up and inner barrel and I can find nothing wrong. I have cleaned and lubricated the barrel and hop up bucking with silicone spray. I'm sure the bucking is correctly placed in the hop up. There were no jamming issues before I installed the metal body. Has anyone run into similar issues with their AEG after installing a metal body and hop up? If you have any thoughts on what might be causing the bbs to jam please let me know. AEG is originally SR-16 has TN 509mm inner barrel Cylinder is TYPE 0 Guarder Metal Body Guarder Metal Hop up TM hop up bucking (rubber) BBs: Airsoft Elite .25s and Excel .25's
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Post by Jacko on Oct 11, 2005 23:59:10 GMT -5
When you put the inner barrel/hop-up into the gun, does it sit up right against the body or is there some space? Most metal hop-ups seem to not fit quite as flush as they should.
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Post by Merrick on Oct 12, 2005 0:10:54 GMT -5
The inner barrel and hop up seem to fit right up against the front of the metal body. It doesn't spring out on its own the way the Mauri hop up used to, but there doesn't seem to be any play between the hop up and metal body. The only thing I can think of it the air nozzle is too far back behind the bb and hop up. It this were the case it might be loosing air pressure out the magwell instead of down the barrel as intended. If this were the case then the FPS could be too low to push the bb past the hop up bucking. But I don't know.
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Post by MayhemXXXFrosty (AndrewMp5k) on Oct 12, 2005 22:02:24 GMT -5
Go back to using the original ABS Hop-Up unit, and see if the same thing happens, if not, you know it has to be with the metal hop-up unit. Also, Jacko: Just an update, Snip ordered a G&P Colt metal body (With mhecbox) for his M16 so I'm taking a look at the problems Andrew had. I'll see if there's any way around these issues. He also bought a G&G 1 peice outer barrel which is causing nothing but problems trying to mount the Sun Project M203 on there. It's been an absolute nightmare so far but hopefully I'll work something out by the weekend. Were you having the same problems I was having? That body was a nightmare for me. And it being my first metal body, I didn't want to start sanding or modifying it in any way. And the charging handle was no big deal for me, it only made it faster for me to access the hop-up. Also, the dust cover that it came with, I noticed, didn't have one of the magnet type things the TM one had, so the dust cover never wanted to stay closed. And the body wasn't like the TM body, so even the TM dust cover wouldn't work on it, it wouldn't even stay flush with the body (wouldn't close).
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Post by xaos on Oct 12, 2005 22:09:12 GMT -5
My guarder body (also a POS like Merrick's) has the same problem, Andrew...I simply put the spring on backwards, so it'd hold the dust cover closed, rather than pop it open when released.
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Post by Jacko on Oct 12, 2005 22:11:55 GMT -5
The dust cover does not close, that's how it was designed. It's very tough to get the body together, I've got to put the mechbox into the lower, then start sliding the mechbox into the upper, and seat it by pulling the charging handle back. Real tricky stuff. However, once everything is in place, it's rock solid.
I ended up mounting the 203 using a big neoprene washer. The 203 is essentially held by nothing but friction, but it's amazingly solid. No one makes a mounting kit for the PDI outer barrel so that's the best I can do.
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Post by Merrick on Oct 16, 2005 20:13:53 GMT -5
After a bit more tinkering I have narrowed my problem to the hop up chamber or the rubber nubbin. I only wish I could throw the mauri hop up unit back into the mix. Unfortunately Andrew, the design of the metal hop up is different than Mauri version. It extends further into the mag well and doesn't use a securing mount like the mauri verson does. The magazines feed directly into the hop up. I will try to post a pic soon so you can see. Anyway, I have found that when the mauri nubbin is on the inner barrel and inserted into the hop up I get bb's that jam up rather tightly. It appears that it is the combination of the inner barrel, mauri nubbin, and metal hop up that are responcible for the jams. When I leave any one of the three out of the equation the bb's will flow right through as intended without any difficulty. I have ordered two different hop up nubbins in hopes that one will remedy my issues. But besides my bb jams I have to say that I really find the metal body to be of excellent quality. I am very pleased with the appearace and found the install to be rather easy. The Guarder metal body came with instructions which were somewhat hepful. They explaned how to break down the mauri body, the parts to save, and the methods and order to assemble the metal body. The finish is a very nice matte black and matches the stock and RAS quite well. I have accidentally bumped the metal body a few times and am also pleased that the finish has not scratched away to reveal the bare alluminum. It seems to be a quite durrable finish, although it hasn't survived a field test yet. It's true the dust cover doesn't latch, or open when the charching handle is pulled, but that is all cosmetic to me. The more important thing it the SR is now Rock Solid and can easily support the added weight of the RAS kit, my scope, or any other accessory my heart desires. It will be a fantastic AEG once its firing again, well worth the price and effort.
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